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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: those coupled drum core inductors Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:30:45 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vr6nam$1uiad$1@dont-email.me> References: <12kdtjt5en2kc3fh88aokn0kr54mvdq2f5@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 15:30:47 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="851fcd834a312c2f335fc2d1c19ef214"; logging-data="2050381"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19EqNndoyfz+vBWBg0yNhCrJPZ75ZprTPU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:VBnQp9ThbaZtyesQD+Iu3bN86kc= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250316-2, 16/3/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <12kdtjt5en2kc3fh88aokn0kr54mvdq2f5@4ax.com> Bytes: 1897 On 17/03/2025 1:15 am, john larkin wrote: > > > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/cd8gxmlrar3kvv3iz36xe/Mu_twin.jpg?rlkey=dvl8e7fbtjnzz3l9q9urkyyfn&raw=1 > > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nm1ksdn7eufm90ol0b0ec/Murata_Coupled_1.jpg?rlkey=e7yvk464xupz4axy7lt6zj3zk&raw=1 > > I was surprised to get K=0.6 by just putting them along side. Why? And your second url doesn't exactly make the point in a way that is easy to follow. The ferrite in the drums has permeability that is about a thousand times higher than that of free space, so the adjacent drum is going to suck in a whole lot of flux lines. The transformer equations are V1=L1.dI1/dt+M.dI2/dt V2=M.dI1/dt+L2.dI2/dt where M=K.sqrt(L1.L2) -- Bill Sloman, Sydney