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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Why Tarski is wrong Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:50:24 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <vr7v51$2u81k$3@dont-email.me> References: <vr1shq$1qopn$1@dont-email.me> <vr1sqe$1p3ti$5@dont-email.me> <vr2dla$25gpq$6@dont-email.me> <vr2e1p$1p3ti$7@dont-email.me> <vr2jki$2deaa$2@dont-email.me> <vr2jvg$2d3ah$2@dont-email.me> <vr2km8$2deaa$5@dont-email.me> <vr2l20$2d3ah$3@dont-email.me> <vr2m8j$2deaa$7@dont-email.me> <vr2mji$2d3ah$5@dont-email.me> <vr2qmt$2ij53$1@dont-email.me> <vr2r34$2d3ah$7@dont-email.me> <vr2tti$2kq04$3@dont-email.me> <vr3u4l$3idjs$2@dont-email.me> <vr4kkr$48ff$2@dont-email.me> <7f68c434c15abfc9d4b645992344f0e851f031a3@i2pn2.org> <vr4t3e$bkso$5@dont-email.me> <vr50bg$ed3o$5@dont-email.me> <vr5abg$m5ov$6@dont-email.me> <8ea8c8f1c661d0f2eef855af9b4c171d4f574826@i2pn2.org> <vr6po4$1udpn$7@dont-email.me> <4965dcbb84fc29c9ba9d3cea39b59a8608bfeb66@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 02:50:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b09575d7b73aca445b63f3a9538c27df"; logging-data="3088436"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Lf6ZeBccn/xLK8O28C/JJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:O0KDEApoRYUWfuNuoDEIHl2f+9g= In-Reply-To: <4965dcbb84fc29c9ba9d3cea39b59a8608bfeb66@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250316-4, 3/16/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 2988 On 3/16/2025 5:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/16/25 11:12 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 3/16/2025 7:36 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Sat, 15 Mar 2025 20:43:11 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> >>>> We can define a correct True(X) predicate that always succeeds except >>>> for unknowns and untruths, Tarski WAS WRONG !!! >>> That does not disprove Tarski. >>> >> >> He said that this is impossible and no >> counter-examples exists that shows that I am wrong. >> True(GC) == FALSE Cannot be proven true AKA unknown >> True(LP) == FALSE Not a truth-bearer >> > > > But if x is what you are saying is A True(X) predicate can be defined and Tarski never showed that it cannot. True(X) only returns TRUE when a a sequence of truth preserving operations can derive X from the set of basic facts and returns false otherwise. This never fails on the entire set of human general knowledge that can be expressed using language. It is not fooled by pathological self-reference or self-contradiction. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer