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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Guardian Almost Makes Sense Date: Mon, 05 May 2025 13:51:32 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vr8i1khdv9tm5kn02mcismjjcuscjkgh35@4ax.com> References: <km3f1ktrueup64tm82odqhcajdnpnedf85@4ax.com> <rt7f1klpin4ogu3dkh0tj0h2st97pv9b2a@4ax.com> <6817ac0a$17$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <6817adf4$0$16$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 05 May 2025 22:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="01299dfde3d56459ca02c6c26cc12541"; logging-data="1388989"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/aCSDFmhlgfnMb+cQ4xAFz" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:2sk37NmnCIWRhc48JrFzOfbONA0= On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:12:04 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >On 5/4/2025 2:03 PM, bitrex wrote: >> On 5/4/2025 1:18 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>> On Sun, 04 May 2025 09:01:56 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> which is shocking. >>>> >>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/02/american- >>>> reindustrialization-manufacturing >>> >>> I would normally hit the 'next' button when someone links to a >>> Guardian article, but as you say, they're right for once with this >>> one. Lots of countries in the West were sold the same lie about >>> swapping manufacturing for services. Mrs Thatcher told the British >>> that the old 'smoke stack' industries would have to go abroad and be >>> replaced by smart services. Those peasants in the Far East, they were >>> told, would take over all the shitty, manual jobs whilst the British >>> would get cracking with the clever stuff like manufacturing silicon >>> chips. Problem was, the peasants in China and Taiwan didn't get the >>> memo. The British lost a huge amount of manufacturing alright, but the >>> service economy which replaced it was - for the most part - low paid >>> and low skill. Some economists who could see the issues with this said >>> at the time: "we can't as a country make a living from shining each >>> other's shoes" - and that's the prediction which *should* have been >>> listened to. >> >> It wasn't the right in the US rioting at the WTO conference in Seattle >> in '99. >> >> The right didn't care. Stocks were up, dot com boom was in full swing, >> and so long as the cops were beating down some "hippies" it was fine, >> ship all the jobs to China, we have a White House blowjob to focus on.. > >Actually _maybe_ Pat Buchanan piped up about it at the time, I can't >recall. > >Sort of like JD Vance, Buchanan could write is his own books which were >often insightful in their way, but then the punchline was the usual >disappointing ultranationalist white power gobbledygook. Vance? White power? His wife is Indian. (But my biscuit recipe is better than his.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F10VIJjqJIs