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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.xcski.com!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:20:53 -0600 Organization: Amateur Plyd Lines: 25 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vraoql$1h4kn$2@dont-email.me> References: <vpf1kr$g09c$1@dont-email.me> <vpshi3$3mrt5$1@dont-email.me> <25j3sjlcbpdvh54f78b90sej213u93d4qq@4ax.com> <vpskpo$3nf3q$2@dont-email.me> <4oi5sjhjr4neggcgv8u2u4k8k3dkmcf9tf@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="8777"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:dvw5g8lJHtrdSiSOHSFv02huRYg= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 8C94722978C; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:21:10 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E39A229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:21:07 -0400 (EDT) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 52I3KuaY1037811 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:20:57 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B01D2622AE for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 03:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/B01D2622AE; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=invalid.invalid id 4AF1CDC01CB; Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:20:54 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:20:54 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+PJtgZT+ZilEgMTP94nyz3NRTBE95MOO4= In-Reply-To: <4oi5sjhjr4neggcgv8u2u4k8k3dkmcf9tf@4ax.com> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org jillery wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 08:30:02 -0700, Pro Plyd > <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> jillery wrote: >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 07:34:41 -0700, Kalkidas <eat@joes.pub> wrote: >>> >>>> There's really nothing as hilarious as watching people -- who spend >>>> their own lives intelligently designing things -- dismiss the idea that >>>> someone else intelligently designed the universe in which their own >>>> intelligence can operate. >>>> >>>> The envy is obvious -- they have been outsmarted and they know it. Hence >>>> the denial. >>> >>> ISTM to compare oneself to an entity capable of designing a universe >>> is the height of hubris. >> >> It's ok, there is no evidence for said "entity"... > > That's an entirely different problem. Quite a bit of overlap, Venn-ly speaking