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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Subject: Re: Why Tarski is wrong
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:34:35 +0200
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On 2025-03-17 12:54:53 +0000, olcott said:
> On 3/17/2025 3:57 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2025-03-17 01:50:24 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> On 3/16/2025 5:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 3/16/25 11:12 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 3/16/2025 7:36 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Sat, 15 Mar 2025 20:43:11 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can define a correct True(X) predicate that always succeeds except
>>>>>>> for unknowns and untruths, Tarski WAS WRONG !!!
>>>>>> That does not disprove Tarski.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He said that this is impossible and no
>>>>> counter-examples exists that shows that I am wrong.
>>>>> True(GC) == FALSE Cannot be proven true AKA unknown
>>>>> True(LP) == FALSE Not a truth-bearer
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But if x is what you are saying is
>>>
>>> A True(X) predicate can be defined and Tarski never
>>> showed that it cannot.
>>>
>>> True(X) only returns TRUE when a a sequence of truth
>>> preserving operations can derive X from the set of basic
>>> facts and returns false otherwise.
>>
>> By this criterion True("There is no truth predicate") is TRUE.
>>
>
> The True(X) predicate only takes formalized Natural Language so that
> would be rejected as false.
No, if we interprete "There is no truth predicate" to represent the
formalized natural language expression that means that there is no
turth predicate.
> LP := ~True(LP) would also be rejected
> as ~TRUE. The Principle of explosion does not apply truth preserving
> operations.
The expression LP := ~True(LP) should be rejected as a syntax error.
--
Mikko