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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 08:56:29 -0500
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On 3/19/2025 8:22 AM, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:43:05 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/18/2025 10:03 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:15 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> (chomp)
>>>> But mankind seems to "want" a leader. Even very primitive clans in New
>>>> Guinea.
>>>
>>> Yep.  Some of the worst dictators were hatched during times when
>>> things looked grim.  Economic depressions, wars, droughts, invasions,
>>> plagues, crop failures, etc all provide real or potential dictators as
>>> a solution to the problems.
>>> "Just give me control of everything and I'll fix everything".
>>> Whatever the cause, bad times seem to give the people a reason to give
>>> power to dictators instead of allowing the chronically ineffective
>>> committees to hammer out a workable compromise.
>>>
>>> What I find amusing is how the US leadership is using such problems to
>>> promote their agenda.  Going into 2024, the economy was in good shape,
>>> unemployment was tolerable, inflation was a problem which could be
>>> solved and there was no crisis available that needed a dictator to
>>> solve.  The Trump/Musk solution was to create a crisis that only a
>>> genuine dictator could solve.  They begin to dismantle the federal
>>> government in the name of "efficiency".  They continue to destroy the
>>> federal government until it is completely ineffective (and therefore
>>> efficient).  In other words, they create a situation from which only a
>>> fearless leader can save the country.  Of course, the only available
>>> dictators available are Trump and Musk who will surely offer their
>>> services to fix the problems they had caused.
>>>
>>> Or maybe the individual states secede from the union in disgust and
>>> form their own independent states.  Instant balkanization.
>>>
>>> Wake me up when the nightmare is over:
>>> <https://logwork.com/countdown-h5o4>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Regarding eternal dialectic, two reasonably informed people
>> (you and I) can look at the same facts and draw utterly
>> different conclusions. Hence policy, structure etc.
> 
> 
> But can the individual states secede? Not "can they actually" but
> rather "can they afford to"?
> 
> About $48.8 billion in federal funding.
> Current population - 12,710,158[
> https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-money-does-the-federal-government-provide-state-and-local-governments/state/illinois/
> 
>   $48,800,000,000 / 12,710,158 (:-)


The current position of various States and municipalities to 
block transfer of illegal alien criminals from Federal 
deportation is exactly the same argument Orville Faubus (Mr 
Clinton's political mentor) made in 1957:

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2010/09/07/1617/
(issue resolved by the 101st Airborne)

And the same as North Carolina's secession of 1860:
http://www.civil-conflict.org/civil-war-history/first-state-to-secede.htm

(note that was before Inauguration Day in March 1861.  Issue 
resolved by Mr Grant et al)

And the same argument as the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794

(President Washington for the win)

Either Presidents 'take care that the laws be faithfully 
executed' or they do not, and examples of diligence and 
laxity both abound. Withholding funds is certainly powerful 
and a nice first increment before military action.  But when 
push comes to shove, Federal law prevails:

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artVI-C2-1/ALDE_00013395/




-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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