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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Lady Liberty Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 19:15:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vrf53t$1ggmv$2@dont-email.me> References: <vrcqci$3dd14$1@dont-email.me> <vrcu81$1cq8f$13@dont-email.me> <vremi7$13egv$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 20:15:09 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8a39910e75bc3addc436d33bad991df"; logging-data="1589983"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18KW/JU36xCN5Fgn3wYHjSK" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:8HeOlUQBOQxCF8qKlMpS9cY0mPQ= Bytes: 3064 On Mar 19, 2025 at 8:06:47 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > On 3/18/2025 7:05 PM, Rhino wrote: >> On 2025-03-18 5:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> Well, the French are demanding we give them back the Statue of Liberty >>> because >>> we have borders and enforce them now, which means we no longer value >>> liberty. >>> Or something. So the week is starting off great. >>> >>> I don’t want to give the Statue of Liberty to France, but I do think >>> we should >>> remove that dumb poem about the ‘huddled masses’ that leftists love to >>> cite >>> when arguing that America, alone among nations, should have no >>> borders, and >>> send that over to the Caliphate of France. They can attach it to the >>> Eiffel >>> Tower or something. America is not an international homeless shelter. >>> >>> >> Even Emma Lazarus' Wikipedia article describes her as an "activist", a >> term surely unknown in her own time, but presumably indicating their >> approval of her politics, even though she was a Jew from a wealthy New >> York family. This would make the Wikipedia editors enthusiastic about a >> capitalist and a Jew, which is a bit unusual these days.... >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lazarus >> >> As for the statue itself, it would be hilarious to send the French a >> slightly altered Statue of Liberty, one with Liberty holding a hand up >> instead of a torch, with the middle finger of that hand pointed skyward. >> Of course the cost of doing that would be very substantial so I propose >> sending them a photo of the Statue of Liberty, photoshopped in the >> manner I suggested. > > Umm... I think it was the poem itself, rather than the poet's > background, that captured our imagination and aspiration, even if on > some level we understood that the real world always has a say. Kind of > a shame to see it ridiculed. I think it's more of a shame to have seen it turned into official public policy by the last administration. The nation is not run by sonnet.