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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Auto accident versus collision; I was wrong Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:45:42 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vrfdu5$1o5ct$1@dont-email.me> References: <vreoqg$15s73$1@dont-email.me> <vrf8kr$1jodo$1@dont-email.me> <vrf9k4$1kkud$1@dont-email.me> <vrfcns$1mhtn$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 22:45:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c8a39910e75bc3addc436d33bad991df"; logging-data="1840541"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX190ipJixuvFo7oWk65vblze" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:BqkUuxQi6Qhah6I4iP1Ixjjf4M8= On Mar 19, 2025 at 2:25:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > On 3/19/2025 4:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> On Mar 19, 2025 at 1:15:23 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> On 3/19/2025 3:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> On Mar 19, 2025 at 10:30:16 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> . . . >>>>> >>>>>> When I was driving school buses, I found that my employers never used >>>>>> the word "accident". If someone hit something while driving their bus, >>>>>> even if it was the merest scratch, it was never an accident: it was >>>>>> *always* a collision. (I'm sure this would have been true if a person >>>>>> were hit, although I don't recall anyone ever hitting a person while I >>>>>> worked there.) I feel sure this was their way of making us take >>>>>> responsibility for what had happened. We didn't get to say anything that >>>>>> implied that whatever happened couldn't be helped in some way. Even if >>>>>> we weren't at fault, I think they expected that we could have done >>>>>> something to prevent or minimize the event. Drivers were always taken >>>>>> off the road for a day or two and made to have a retraining session with >>>>>> another driver after a collision. >>>>> >>>>> Your employer wasn't wrong: there was a collision. >>>>> >>>>> I was a school bus driver too. We were told we would be blamed for a >>>>> rear end collision (the vehicle behind colliding with the rear of the >>>>> school bus) regardless of what the law said, because they always wanted >>>>> us to leave adequate distance behind the vehicle ahead of the bus. >>>> >>>> How do you control how much distance there is behind you from other >>>> traffic? >>> >>> Use your accelerator. >> >> And if there's traffic in front of you also? > > Use your steering wheel. And do what? Run off the road with a load full of kids in the back?