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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:53:09 -0500
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On 3/19/2025 4:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:17:17 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/19/2025 4:16 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 3/19/2025 4:10 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:06:44 -0500, AMuzi
>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/19/2025 4:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:38:24 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/19/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:45:15 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:11:53 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0700, John B.
>>>>>>>>>> <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:14:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:31 +0700, John B.
>>>>>>>>>>>> <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:38:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:22:05 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 4:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/2025 2:54 PM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         PS Not all monarchies are "bad" per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se. As long as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal too much and actually care for their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "subjects".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         []'s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But with every system, there are degrees of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plunder, death
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and destruction. Some pursue mass murder,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible, others merely awful, some bearable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as always, I'll ask: So what's the solution?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heh heh heh read some Marx! or any political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosopher.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The dialectic is eternal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's perpetual conflict. Inherent to all human
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> societies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In some cases civil and rhetorical, in others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a sword,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knout, secret police or what have you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't discount 'civil and rhetorical'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pernicious and severe. Per Alphonse Capone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You can steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more with a pen than a gun."  The modern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applications of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that usually start with, "For the children...".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No matter what kind of government, there will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least one person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who wants to take control of everybody else...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and believes it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and proper that he does so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never mind governments... in any group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankie???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a self esteem thing. When people take
>>>>>>>>>>>> directions from someone
>>>>>>>>>>>> with low esteem it makes them feel important. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter if the directions are forced on them as in
>>>>>>>>>>>> schools, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> voluntary as in social groups.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think leaders are generally people with low
>>>>>>>>>>>> esteem who need
>>>>>>>>>>>> followers to make them feel important.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not, "I'm important so I will lead you." It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> more likely, "I
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to feel important, so follow me."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I can't agree with you, at least in all
>>>>>>>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not many senior people in the military are weak
>>>>>>>>>>> kneaded, quite simply
>>>>>>>>>>> because their responsibilities are already mapped
>>>>>>>>>>> out before hey get
>>>>>>>>>>> the job."I appoint you as in charge of aircraft
>>>>>>>>>>> maintenance" and "if
>>>>>>>>>>> the airplanes don't fly as scheduled you lose your
>>>>>>>>>>> job" while probably
>>>>>>>>>>> not spoken is understood by both parties.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Leaders" in every category are forever striving to
>>>>>>>>>> have more power
>>>>>>>>>> and get more control. I know that they believe they
>>>>>>>>>> are "serving," but
>>>>>>>>>> that's a bullshit attempt to justify their need to
>>>>>>>>>> feel important.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      Some leaders are different. Just like people are
>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>> One of the first things you learn in medicine.
>>>>>>>>>      Study "Pepe" Mujica and Luiz Inacio Lula da
>>>>>>>>> Silva. They are as
>>>>>>>>> poor today as they were when they took office......
>>>>>>>>>      Mujica retired last year, and wants to spend the
>>>>>>>>> rest of his
>>>>>>>>> life on his farm. Lula retired in 2010 intending to
>>>>>>>>> spend his last
>>>>>>>>> days with his family, and only came back to fight the
>>>>>>>>> fascists here in
>>>>>>>>> Brazil.
>>>>>>>>>      Even Jesus, who I believe existed (but as a
>>>>>>>>> politician not a
>>>>>>>>> character in a  rather badly written fairy tale) was
>>>>>>>>> never a
>>>>>>>>> power/money/control grabber. And he is still a
>>>>>>>>> "Leader" today. LOL.
>>>>>>>>>      []'s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, from what I read he seemed like an allright kind
>>>>>>>> of guy. Too bad
>>>>>>>> that so many people call him by the wrong name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allah?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read somewhere that his name started with "y," but I'm
>>>>>> pretty sure
>>>>>> they didn't have the English alphabet then. Being a
>>>>>> respect person, I
>>>>>> always reffered to him as Mr. Christ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>
>>>>> You're maybe thinking YWH, whose name shall not be spoken.
>>>>> Oh, and The Christ is an honorific not a name.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I knew that. I was teasing. I do that sometimes.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> C'est bon
>>>> Soloman
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