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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: Auto accident versus collision; I was wrong
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 22:41:12 -0000 (UTC)
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On Mar 19, 2025 at 3:09:35 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 3/19/2025 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>  On Mar 19, 2025 at 2:25:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  On 3/19/2025 4:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>    On Mar 19, 2025 at 1:15:23 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>>    On 3/19/2025 3:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>      On Mar 19, 2025 at 10:30:16 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
>>>>>>      wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>      Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>      . . .
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>      When I was driving school buses, I found that my employers never used
>>>>>>>>      the word "accident". If someone hit something while driving their bus,
>>>>>>>>      even if it was the merest scratch, it was never an accident: it was
>>>>>>>>      *always* a collision. (I'm sure this would have been true if a person
>>>>>>>>      were hit, although I don't recall anyone ever hitting a person while I
>>>>>>>>      worked there.) I feel sure this was their way of making us take
>>>>>>>>      responsibility for what had happened. We didn't get to say anything that
>>>>>>>>      implied that whatever happened couldn't be helped in some way. Even if
>>>>>>>>      we weren't at fault, I think they expected that we could have done
>>>>>>>>      something to prevent or minimize the event. Drivers were always taken
>>>>>>>>      off the road for a day or two and made to have a retraining session with
>>>>>>>>      another driver after a collision.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      Your employer wasn't wrong: there was a collision.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      I was a school bus driver too. We were told we would be blamed for a
>>>>>>>      rear end collision (the vehicle behind colliding with the rear of the
>>>>>>>      school bus) regardless of what the law said, because they always wanted
>>>>>>>      us to leave adequate distance behind the vehicle ahead of the bus.
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>      How do you control how much distance there is behind you from other
>>>>>>  traffic?
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Use your accelerator.
>>>>    
>>>>    And if there's traffic in front of you also?
>>> 
>>>  Use your steering wheel.
>>  
>>  And do what? Run off the road with a load full of kids in the back?
> 
> Them's the brakes.

Which leads us back to how you control how close the guy behind you is.