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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Auto accident versus collision; I was wrong Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 23:02:53 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vrg0gt$27ae3$1@dont-email.me> References: <vreoqg$15s73$1@dont-email.me> <vrfcns$1mhtn$2@dont-email.me> <vrfdu5$1o5ct$1@dont-email.me> <vrffav$1orl4$1@dont-email.me> <vrfh68$1qn58$2@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 04:02:54 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1946d9cedc429da0c05dfd752763dd33"; logging-data="2337219"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+IFHrUQtmDaJSuzsiCZh4YnnPfom2Zszo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:hQ6Sz/grZzqRA9/EZgEFlaOPOx8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vrfh68$1qn58$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3902 On 3/19/2025 6:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Mar 19, 2025 at 3:09:35 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On 3/19/2025 5:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> On Mar 19, 2025 at 2:25:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/19/2025 4:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> On Mar 19, 2025 at 1:15:23 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/19/2025 3:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2025 at 10:30:16 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> . . . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I was driving school buses, I found that my employers never used >>>>>>>>> the word "accident". If someone hit something while driving their bus, >>>>>>>>> even if it was the merest scratch, it was never an accident: it was >>>>>>>>> *always* a collision. (I'm sure this would have been true if a person >>>>>>>>> were hit, although I don't recall anyone ever hitting a person while I >>>>>>>>> worked there.) I feel sure this was their way of making us take >>>>>>>>> responsibility for what had happened. We didn't get to say anything that >>>>>>>>> implied that whatever happened couldn't be helped in some way. Even if >>>>>>>>> we weren't at fault, I think they expected that we could have done >>>>>>>>> something to prevent or minimize the event. Drivers were always taken >>>>>>>>> off the road for a day or two and made to have a retraining session with >>>>>>>>> another driver after a collision. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your employer wasn't wrong: there was a collision. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was a school bus driver too. We were told we would be blamed for a >>>>>>>> rear end collision (the vehicle behind colliding with the rear of the >>>>>>>> school bus) regardless of what the law said, because they always wanted >>>>>>>> us to leave adequate distance behind the vehicle ahead of the bus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you control how much distance there is behind you from other >>>>>>> traffic? >>>>>> >>>>>> Use your accelerator. >>>>> >>>>> And if there's traffic in front of you also? >>>> >>>> Use your steering wheel. >>> >>> And do what? Run off the road with a load full of kids in the back? >> >> Them's the brakes. > > Which leads us back to how you control how close the guy behind you is. I'm being facetious, started with suggesting that school buses speed up to outrun trailing traffic.