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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:10:14 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vrgm1k$2s8c6$2@dont-email.me> References: <vqrbtd$1chb7$2@solani.org> <vr1bav$p45$1@news.muc.de> <vr1e8i$1er2v$1@dont-email.me> <vr1hig$5qt$1@news.muc.de> <vr29g3$23fi7$3@dont-email.me> <vr2d3k$jli$1@news.muc.de> <vr3fbu$1gbs1$3@solani.org> <vr3pvd$20r1$1@news.muc.de> <vr4cgl$3qbcs$3@dont-email.me> <vr6fgl$1uok$1@news.muc.de> <vr6tit$21dt9$1@dont-email.me> <0dcd52f8-c0ca-4e41-bb47-3a4e689f103e@att.net> <vr75vb$2a6rk$1@dont-email.me> <c60b35cb-33a8-40a7-ad7a-4c5841a6f454@att.net> <vr78ng$2a6rj$3@dont-email.me> <578344c0-4d58-4dcb-8a89-988e3e60f9d7@att.net> <vr7ivf$2jj8r$3@dont-email.me> <3a9f34ab-c270-4dfc-b23c-14741b68875b@att.net> <vr8a53$3dsos$1@dont-email.me> <3af4ba5e-63c6-4145-966c-67c832e127bc@att.net> <vr9him$bvhg$1@dont-email.me> <fc1d5825-1d93-4ac8-a6e4-e513cfce213a@att.net> <vrbcnf$23ker$2@dont-email.me> <ae5edd89-d5da-4ff4-a723-485cafa92582@att.net> <vrc8n0$2og7i$2@dont-email.me> <0b8644b2-7027-420e-b187-8214daaf9e3b@att.net> <vrf5bp$1gcun$1@dont-email.me> <b3730bf7-bcd1-4698-b465-6d6ef190b29d@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:10:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="896e958d141c35b186bd7f97dfee201a"; logging-data="3023238"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18vbDdlMxQfE6S9gYcElDIpRBDyVMdc1WA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BDPcMHdH6yN/uNhe4mTfkQEQgLE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <b3730bf7-bcd1-4698-b465-6d6ef190b29d@att.net> Bytes: 2779 On 19.03.2025 23:51, Jim Burns wrote: > On 3/19/2025 3:19 PM, WM wrote: >> On 19.03.2025 16:18, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 3/18/2025 12:58 PM, WM wrote: >>>> On 18.03.2025 17:34, Jim Burns wrote: > >>>>> After all the swaps, >>>>> without ever disappearing into >>>>> anywhere other than a finite set, >>>>> Bob disappears out of all finite sets. >>>> >>>> No, that is impossible. >>> >>> Then there are subsets larger than their sets. >> >> No, there are dark numbers. That is enough. > > ⎛ A set is WM.sized == > ⎜ membership.change.by.one changes size. > ⎜ #A < #Aᣕᵃ If Bob leaves the matrix, then logic is violated. Therefore Bob cannot leave the matrix in reasonable mathematics. All your waffle cannot change this fact. Regards, WM