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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:52:25 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vri679$u8t$2@dont-email.me> References: <uorjtj1svg4iel6a1il22vrqbe394idovc@4ax.com> <vrhet5$3jbl7$1@dont-email.me> <vmkotjl7qj0nsfb9f48pdk1p9godi0fa8b@4ax.com> <vri16r$u8t$1@dont-email.me> <dj3ptj5gfkntk0pvn5k2alc6476et18i6i@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:52:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d349e52f7ac0e4b47d6c246f8f46d4b2"; logging-data="31005"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18L62aHt9jQvwOTb9XGoL4e/gq3TrHoMj0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kDA4nJlFccp+R5/PFXFtbPnhwQI= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <dj3ptj5gfkntk0pvn5k2alc6476et18i6i@4ax.com> Bytes: 2653 On 2025-03-20 14:58, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>>> >>>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? >>> >>> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >>> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >>> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. >> >> Sorry, but that is completely dodging the question. > > > OK, let me explain, the device would need to have Windows 11 running > in a VM, and mind you that isn't a complaint because remaining with > x86 just for Wine wouldn't make sense, Apple was smart to dump > IntelAMD. It's convenient that I can operate this app under Wine, > with Linux and x86 hardware, but in the future I would love to see > Linux for ARM on a new device. As was already explained to you, that's false. WiNE is available to run ARM Windows apps on the Mac. > > To address your question, directly, I upped the specs to give me 32 GB > RAM and such. That which would give me what's needed to make macOS > shine as a driver OS. But since that proceeded from a false assumption...