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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Binocular choke extras Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:55:45 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vri6dh$6npc$1@dont-email.me> References: <1r9gp9h.1k6o87n8sg91cN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vrfg74$1oqut$1@dont-email.me> <1r9hgjn.1ngpfg1zut24qN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <n3aotjp01kud0d2mvk8r97hg22nf0fnoc9@4ax.com> <20250320a@crcomp.net> <vrhgi7$3kog6$1@dont-email.me> <20250320b@crcomp.net> <20250320c@crcomp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:55:45 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a5baee2473d8818b4841f3888141bfa1"; logging-data="220972"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19FUejhyusUn/Ik3OU6HBs+" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AzLrcQsynKpvaQJP3cjShLa4THY= In-Reply-To: <20250320c@crcomp.net> Content-Language: en-US, fr-FR, nl-NL Bytes: 2724 On 3/20/25 21:15, Don wrote: > Don wrote: >> Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>> Don wrote: > > <snip> > >>>> It's difficult for me to follow this conversation. Maybe my followup >>>> simply repeats what you guys already said. >>>> The tubes are shields designed to fit inside the binocular core >>>> holes. You then soldier them together with a PCB at each end like so: >>>> >>>> <https://www.qsl.net/g3oou/BBTrans_4278a.jpg> >>>> >>>> It becomes more interesting with coax: >>>> >>>> <https://www.qsl.net/kf8od/ldmos53.jpg> >>> >>> Not at both ends! That is not going to work! >> >> What you say makes sense in retrospect. > > In retro-retrospect what you say doesn't make sense. Is > <https://www.qsl.net/kf8od/ldmos53.jpg> wrong? It says to solder both > ends. That one is OK. The tubes connect on one end, but not on the other. There's a gap between the sides in the bottom picture. It will work, though if I were to make it, I wouldn't bother using coax for the high-impedance winding. > > What flummoxes me is why shielded coax is is itself inserted into a > separately shielded sleeve? Agreed. The coax shields are simply in parallel with the single-turn low-impedance winding formed by the tubes. Maybe it shifts the upper cut-off frequency a tiny bit upwards, but I'm not convinced it's worth the trouble. Jeroen Belleman