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On 3/20/2025 8:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:31:58 -0400, Cryptoengineer
> <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/19/2025 1:17 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
> 
> <snippo -- more kids needed!>
> 
>>> While childbirth is not exactly trivial, one requires far more resources
>>> to turn the resulting infant into a functional adult. That's a detail
>>> many pro-natalists prefer to ignore.
>>
>> Absolutely agree - subsidizing just pregnancy and birth isn't
>> going to be very effective.
>>
>> Throwing out numbers to give an idea of the magnitudes I think would
>> be effective: something like a $60k payment for a birth (that's the low
>> end for surrogate mothers), and say, $30,000/year payment for each
>> child in the house. (approx the cost/year to raise a child in MA). So
>> a family with 3 kids would be getting $90k, around the US median
>> household income, plus employment income, if any.
> 
> Well, that's one way to get to a Guaranteed Basic Income.
> 
> /JoJo Rabbit/ includes a female Nazi who, at a summer camp for kids,
> tells the girls that she will teach them how to make beautiful Aryan
> boys for the Reich. She has done it, she says, an <incredible number>
> of times.
> 
> I forget the number. But I recall thinking at the time that it was
> large enough that, if she had started when Hitler came to power, she
> would have been producing more than one per year.
> 
> My understanding, however, is that such programs did exist in Hitler's
> Germany.

There were what were basically brothels for the SS where they were 
encouraged to impregnate as many of the pure Aryan women there as they 
could.  And in some parts of Nazi society such women were well thought of.

-- 
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky 
dirty old man.