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From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: (tranlation) Apartment Women by Gu Byeong-Mo
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On 3/20/2025 9:18 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 3/20/2025 8:55 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:31:58 -0400, Cryptoengineer
>> <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/19/2025 1:17 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>
>> <snippo -- more kids needed!>
>>
>>>> While childbirth is not exactly trivial, one requires far more 
>>>> resources
>>>> to turn the resulting infant into a functional adult. That's a detail
>>>> many pro-natalists prefer to ignore.
>>>
>>> Absolutely agree - subsidizing just pregnancy and birth isn't
>>> going to be very effective.
>>>
>>> Throwing out numbers to give an idea of the magnitudes I think would
>>> be effective: something like a $60k payment for a birth (that's the low
>>> end for surrogate mothers), and say, $30,000/year payment for each
>>> child in the house. (approx the cost/year to raise a child in MA). So
>>> a family with 3 kids would be getting $90k, around the US median
>>> household income, plus employment income, if any.
>>
>> Well, that's one way to get to a Guaranteed Basic Income.
>>
>> /JoJo Rabbit/ includes a female Nazi who, at a summer camp for kids,
>> tells the girls that she will teach them how to make beautiful Aryan
>> boys for the Reich. She has done it, she says, an <incredible number>
>> of times.
>>
>> I forget the number. But I recall thinking at the time that it was
>> large enough that, if she had started when Hitler came to power, she
>> would have been producing more than one per year.
>>
>> My understanding, however, is that such programs did exist in Hitler's
>> Germany.
> 
> There were what were basically brothels for the SS where they were 
> encouraged to impregnate as many of the pure Aryan women there as they 
> could.  And in some parts of Nazi society such women were well thought of.
> 

This is a bit of an exaggeration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

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