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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 10:41:31 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vrj8nr$16c78$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrfvbd$256og$2@dont-email.me> <3cf0a34d9382774fd8275a118d1af8b0841c8eb1@i2pn2.org> <vrhacd$3fbja$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:41:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cae169de1f4b106dcdbefb0dc8de4776"; logging-data="1257704"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/fUi7zOV4U4QMJSSV33Ax4" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:hXspAiRjJB902XPk9sdLwCH/TDw= On 2025-03-20 14:57:16 +0000, olcott said: > On 3/20/2025 6:00 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 3/19/25 10:42 PM, olcott wrote: >>> It is stipulated that analytic knowledge is limited to the >>> set of knowledge that can be expressed using language or >>> derived by applying truth preserving operations to elements >>> of this set. >> >> Which just means that you have stipulated yourself out of all classical >> logic, since Truth is different than Knowledge. In a good logic system, >> Knowledge will be a subset of Truth, but you have defined that in your >> system, Truth is a subset of Knowledge, so you have it backwards. >> > > True(X) always returns TRUE for every element in the set > of general knowledge that can be expressed using language. > It never gets confused by paradoxes. Not useful unless it returns TRUE for no X that contradicts anything that can be inferred from the set of general knowledge. -- Mikko