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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH --- Correct Emulation Defined Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 08:10:24 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: <vrjog0$1ilbe$6@dont-email.me> References: <vrfuob$256og$1@dont-email.me> <vrgme1$2tr56$1@dont-email.me> <vri5mn$6nv4$1@dont-email.me> <8354fe5751e03a767452a3999818d5c6da714a6b@i2pn2.org> <vrigh6$f35v$1@dont-email.me> <vrj6d3$14iuu$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:10:25 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12f6cf3e875cd6439bcd99f3842832d3"; logging-data="1660270"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/UXzXLGqb/AvA+uFpd8Nbi" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3MPp2+X7KrWAPgKZtNqzA4zk/CQ= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250321-2, 3/21/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vrj6d3$14iuu$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3147 On 3/21/2025 3:01 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-03-21 01:48:22 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 3/20/2025 8:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 3/20/25 6:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 3/20/2025 4:16 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-03-20 02:32:43 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> DDD() >>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>>>> >>>>>> When N steps of DDD are emulated by HHH according >>>>>> to the semantics of the x86 language then these >>>>>> N steps are emulated correctly. >>>>> >>>>> That does not make much sense to define the correct emulation of >>>>> DDD as >>>>> it should mean whatever "correct emulation" means when applied to DDD. >>>>> >>>>> Althouth promised otherwise on the subject line the meaning of "DDD >>>>> correctly emulated by HHH" when N is not specified is not defined. >>>>> >>>> >>>> N in this context always means any element of the >>>> set of natural numbers. >>> >>> Then HHH isn't a specific program, and you are admitting that you >>> "logic" is just based on FRAUD. >>> >> >> We have been over this same thing too many times. > > You are right. But you can't figure out how to avoid that. > I explained that in the part you ignored. When I fully answer a question endlessly repeating the same question after it has been fully answered is not acceptable. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer