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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 12:40:43 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: <vrkfbr$27s7d$1@dont-email.me> References: <uorjtj1svg4iel6a1il22vrqbe394idovc@4ax.com> <vrhet5$3jbl7$1@dont-email.me> <vmkotjl7qj0nsfb9f48pdk1p9godi0fa8b@4ax.com> <vri16r$u8t$1@dont-email.me> <dj3ptj5gfkntk0pvn5k2alc6476et18i6i@4ax.com> <vri679$u8t$2@dont-email.me> <gq4rtj5go10o7t71f8jguh066iene2n5h8@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:40:44 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8704f8fa72020b2432d20f21492bb6f0"; logging-data="2355437"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1924yNbFu2gTegQE7I9vgCcJUKgVblmfzU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:FN1mFaniNgkIXwvUWuEsAMvSS7g= In-Reply-To: <gq4rtj5go10o7t71f8jguh066iene2n5h8@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 3040 On 2025-03-21 09:29, Joel wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>>>>>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>>>>>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you do that you would need a Mac Mini configured to cost that much? >>>>> >>>>> I use the capacity of my CPU and RAM under Linux, it would only be >>>>> more burdened under macOS with needing to run WinARM in a VM, rather >>>>> than having native Wine with an x86-64 PC with Linux. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but that is completely dodging the question. >>> >>> OK, let me explain, the device would need to have Windows 11 running >>> in a VM, and mind you that isn't a complaint because remaining with >>> x86 just for Wine wouldn't make sense, Apple was smart to dump >>> IntelAMD. It's convenient that I can operate this app under Wine, >>> with Linux and x86 hardware, but in the future I would love to see >>> Linux for ARM on a new device. >> >> As was already explained to you, that's false. >> >> WiNE is available to run ARM Windows apps on the Mac. >> >>> To address your question, directly, I upped the specs to give me 32 GB >>> RAM and such. That which would give me what's needed to make macOS >>> shine as a driver OS. >> But since that proceeded from a false assumption... > > > I would as it turns out be fine using Wine under macOS, you were right > about that part of it, but it doesn't change the desired specs of my > theoretical Mac mini, they just go from "pretty good" to "really > good". And I ask again: What actual task makes you need such an extreme machine?