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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:42:08 -0400
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On 3/21/2025 5:44 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:43:13 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:11:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:05:24 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:20:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2025 11:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the far right still maintains its world view by ignoring
>>>>>>>>>>> all relevant facts it dislikes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> An universal trait, across all ideologies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I strongly disagree. "Univeral" seems to imply "everybody" of "all
>>>>>>>>> ideologies." I think complete dismissal of facts is far, far more
>>>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>>>> on the right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's more common universally is to disagree on the relative
>>>>>>>>> importance
>>>>>>>>> of various bits of data. And there were long periods in U.S. history
>>>>>>>>> when that was the main subject of disputes - which data set is more
>>>>>>>>> significant? Which facts should get more attention? Which issues are
>>>>>>>>> more important?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're far beyond that now, at least with the right wing. Once a Trump
>>>>>>>>> administration invented "alternative facts" verifiable data went
>>>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>>>> window. The right now has a strong tendency to blatantly invent
>>>>>>>>> "facts"
>>>>>>>>> to justify its ideas. Vance essentially confessed to that, regarding
>>>>>>>>> small town Ohio pets being eaten by immigrants, claiming it was OK to
>>>>>>>>> "create stories" - IOW, outright lie. Musk is "finding" billions and
>>>>>>>>> billions of dollars of fraud that regularly disappears whenever anyone
>>>>>>>>> else looks into the details.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your efforts today are less blatant, but related: "Here's _one_
>>>>>>>>> glacier
>>>>>>>>> that grew, so we should ignore the immense worldwide shrinking of
>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>> all glaciers." And "Land here is slowly sinking, so we should ignore
>>>>>>>>> worldwide satellite measurements showing oceans rising."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recall hearing that Joe Biden is so sharp that his staff can't keep
>>>>>>>> up with him.  That Trump went to Russia and had women pee on him. That
>>>>>>>> there was choice but to pack up and leave Afghanistan the way it was
>>>>>>>> done.  That there was no way to close the border without Congressional
>>>>>>>> action. That Hunter Biden would not be pardoned. (etc)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both sides lie. Both sides make up "Facts." Both sides fund their pet
>>>>>>>> projects. Both sides are crooks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Speaker Pelosi to Congress
>>>>>>>> "We need to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leave it to the dumbass to intentionally conflate politics with science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dishonesty may be among our smaller problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ms Pelosi also said (clearly and correctly) that Mr Biden could not
>>>>>>> waive student loans without an Act of Congress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Merely being truthful and correct had no affect on what actually
>>>>>>> happened, as Mr Biden bragged about subsequently defying the direct
>>>>>>> Supreme Court ruling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, he didn't. He said "we'll have to find another way to do it".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And then continued anyway, misusing a 'special cases' provision for
>>>>> large classes of borrowers.
>>>>>
>>>>> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at retail in cash were
>>>>> miffed at least.
>>>>
>>>> Must have felt the same way my cousin did when the drinking age in
>>>> Massachusetts was lowered to 18 the day after he turned 21.
>>>>
>>>> That's not the way life turns sometimes - I learned to live with it.
>>>>
>>>> My loans were paid off long ago, but I thought student loan forgiveness
>>>> was a great idea, and still do. One of the reasons this country lags in
>>>> education is that we make it hard to get one. It's why Musk wants to
>>>> keep the H1B program going, and convinced trump to make it so - couple
>>>> that with this asinine thought that the government shouldn't be involved
>>>> in education, and it's no wonder American companies need to have foreign
>>>> students.
>>>>
>>>> It's smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
>>>
>>> Plumbers, truck drivers, and construction workers paying off college
>>> graduates' loans. Well of course.....
>>
>> 	Charge it to people that have hundreds of billions of dollars.
>> They probably won't even notice.
>> 	[]'s
> 
> They already pay most of the income taxes...  and also, most of the
> wages.
<sob> The poor dears! Is there anything we can do to lighten their load? /s

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- Frank Krygowski