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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Hollywood Celebrities Ask Trump for Help Against AI Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 22:22:11 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 59 Message-ID: <vrl6sk$2s7d8$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrcu2r$3fkd5$2@dont-email.me> <0001HW.2D8E1A8B05090CBE3064AA38F@news.giganews.com> <vrkrc9$2i51h$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 03:22:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dc23dffe4680cae1225d66654193d1b3"; logging-data="3022248"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+qWQDFDLJhyQpqncQO2cLxzk2odOHcs4I=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CxYqYwHl2YnlBinUG0qDshqno54= In-Reply-To: <vrkrc9$2i51h$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3941 On 3/21/2025 7:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Mar 21, 2025 at 3:07:07 PM PDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> > wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:02:51 -0700, BTR1701 wrote: >> >>> Ben Stiller, Mark Ruffalo and More Than 400 Hollywood Names Urge Trump to >>> Not >>> Let AI Companies Exploit Copyrighted Works >>> >>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/ben-stiller-mark-ruffalo-more-215500154.html >> >> This statement makes sense to me: >> >> "It is clear that Google (valued at $2Tn) and OpenAI (valued at >> over $157Bn) are arguing for a special government exemption so >> they can freely exploit America´s creative and knowledge >> industries, despite their substantial revenues and available >> funds. There is no reason to weaken or eliminate the copyright >> protections that have helped America flourish. Not when AI >> companies can use our copyrighted material by simply doing what >> the law requires: negotiating appropriate licenses with copyright >> holders - just as every other industry does. Access to America´s >> creative catalog of films, writing, video content, and music is >> not a matter of national security. They do not require a >> government-mandated exemption from existing U.S. copyright law." >> >> Granting exemptions to Google to violate copyright >> laws is a subsidy of Google by the taxpayers, a vast >> power to be used exclusively by the Google corporations. >> There is already illegally subsidized monopolization by Google, >> and this furthers it, effectively prohibiting competition >> to Google. >> >> I'm reminded of Google's illegal dealings in federal court >> in partnership with the American Association Of Publishers, >> feigning as adversaries, tried to get the judge to decree a >> global monopoly on "orphan" works to Google. Judge Ito >> denied it, a hero to orphans, a disappointment to those >> who see that monopolization is inevitable and therefore >> desirable. Where's the actual move to re-publish >> orphan works, because that cause is not served by decreeing >> Google to be the world's exclusive "royal" publisher. >> >> Or the new British "law" that says that hate speech >> is illegal but gives exemptions to specific news >> organizations, where a reader parrots or rebuts an >> approved privately owned news source and it's technically >> an imprisonable offense to do so. Other, "non-royal" >> news sources are not permitted to compete. > > All that's great but it doesn't address the rank hypocrisy of all these > Hollywood elitists spending the better part of a decade calling a guy "worse > than Hitler", then expecting his help when it comes to protecting their > livelihoods. They may not have understood the "help" to depend on personal affinity.