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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context. Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 06:29:43 +0000 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vrllcn$393mf$5@dont-email.me> References: <vr1shq$1qopn$1@dont-email.me> <7f68c434c15abfc9d4b645992344f0e851f031a3@i2pn2.org> <vr4t3e$bkso$5@dont-email.me> <vr50bg$ed3o$5@dont-email.me> <vr5abg$m5ov$6@dont-email.me> <8ea8c8f1c661d0f2eef855af9b4c171d4f574826@i2pn2.org> <vr6po4$1udpn$7@dont-email.me> <4965dcbb84fc29c9ba9d3cea39b59a8608bfeb66@i2pn2.org> <vr7v51$2u81k$3@dont-email.me> <7db5f56a38a6b6eda2b63acc2568f5dedcc55efd@i2pn2.org> <vr9fp6$bv13$5@dont-email.me> <vrbrkd$2ii4j$1@dont-email.me> <vrbss5$2j07c$1@dont-email.me> <2dd0fa97e2387ba4bca36b40ca16925933b35d9a@i2pn2.org> <vrfe7q$1oabl$1@dont-email.me> <0e92642bf4519e50ba48d51b52d17749c6e19664@i2pn2.org> <vri3va$3egq$1@dont-email.me> <9495b0ea31b3c2559cf9515bfabe071d48cc9d39@i2pn2.org> <vrinjq$kefg$2@dont-email.me> <vrj702$14v65$1@dont-email.me> <vrjboo$17u8e$2@dont-email.me> <674e15b27aee55659e2925766cb6bb2b94fbb36d@i2pn2.org> <vrkh30$29m93$1@dont-email.me> <vrkq98$2h2aq$2@dont-email.me> <369333e532dcdbb9b63ed007c90436544fa305f2@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:29:43 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="421cf145daeb1bbae253897722856eae"; logging-data="3444431"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/NGvjOPqIPmQa4fl+L2eGYnVYXFkRMFQRS1KOC0p3x9A==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:YYe/pY8VboC2VILJqRFPISieC24= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <369333e532dcdbb9b63ed007c90436544fa305f2@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3244 On 22/03/2025 00:01, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/21/25 6:47 PM, olcott wrote: <snip> >> >> Or we could simply define the rules for constructing a >> formal system such that inconsistency cannot exist. >> > > You could try, but it can't be done and allow for any reasonable > level of power in the logic. You basically need to have a system > that can only prove a finite number of facts, so you can check > that none of them are inconsistant. Hofstadter's GEB provides an excellent analogy of this in Contracrostipunctus, where Tortoise puts Crab's record player to the test: "[Crab] had just bought his first record player, and being somewhat gullible, believed every word the salesman had told him about it-in particular, that it was capable of reproducing any and all sounds. In short, he was convinced that it was a Perfect phonograph." Those who know the book will recall the argument. (And those who don't should buy a copy.) -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within