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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH --- Correct Emulation Defined Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 11:48:04 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vrm10k$3mbhn$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrfuob$256og$1@dont-email.me> <vrgme1$2tr56$1@dont-email.me> <vri5mn$6nv4$1@dont-email.me> <8354fe5751e03a767452a3999818d5c6da714a6b@i2pn2.org> <vrigh6$f35v$1@dont-email.me> <vrj6d3$14iuu$1@dont-email.me> <vrjog0$1ilbe$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 10:48:04 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b856591014f60709615ab470835cb0d0"; logging-data="3878455"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18QNCZJaOj6mNURy/8Ps22e" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:sYOzvQPta47YssU1cqgxhjAHKMg= Bytes: 3186 On 2025-03-21 13:10:24 +0000, olcott said: > On 3/21/2025 3:01 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2025-03-21 01:48:22 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 3/20/2025 8:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 3/20/25 6:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 3/20/2025 4:16 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-03-20 02:32:43 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> DDD() >>>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When N steps of DDD are emulated by HHH according >>>>>>> to the semantics of the x86 language then these >>>>>>> N steps are emulated correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> That does not make much sense to define the correct emulation of DDD as >>>>>> it should mean whatever "correct emulation" means when applied to DDD. >>>>>> >>>>>> Althouth promised otherwise on the subject line the meaning of "DDD >>>>>> correctly emulated by HHH" when N is not specified is not defined. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> N in this context always means any element of the >>>>> set of natural numbers. >>>> >>>> Then HHH isn't a specific program, and you are admitting that you >>>> "logic" is just based on FRAUD. >>>> >>> >>> We have been over this same thing too many times. >> >> You are right. But you can't figure out how to avoid that. >> > > I explained that in the part you ignored. > When I fully answer a question endlessly > repeating the same question after it has been > fully answered is not acceptable. You still havn't figured out how to avoid being the over the same thing too many times. But noticing that you have been is a step towards the solution. Whether you can take another step in the same direction remains to be seen. -- Mikko