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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH --- Correct Emulation Defined 2 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 11:55:37 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vrm1ep$3moen$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrfuob$256og$1@dont-email.me> <vrgme1$2tr56$1@dont-email.me> <vri5mn$6nv4$1@dont-email.me> <8354fe5751e03a767452a3999818d5c6da714a6b@i2pn2.org> <vrigh6$f35v$1@dont-email.me> <vrj6d3$14iuu$1@dont-email.me> <vrjog0$1ilbe$6@dont-email.me> <db8aa67218b2a0990cd1df38aca29dbd3930e145@i2pn2.org> <vrkumg$2l2ci$2@dont-email.me> <ba957e964c1090cbb801b1688b951ac095281737@i2pn2.org> <vrl2s6$2nttr$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 10:55:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b856591014f60709615ab470835cb0d0"; logging-data="3891671"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19w12nwivDdL7VPq2bgRGR+" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:/gTW9MCfx5ipwD9PrOskaaYWPCc= Bytes: 2429 On 2025-03-22 01:13:42 +0000, olcott said: > On 3/21/2025 7:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 3/21/25 8:02 PM, olcott wrote: >>> >>> DDD() >>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>> [00002183] c3 ret >>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>> >>> For every HHH at machine address 000015d2 that emulates >>> a finite number of steps of DDD according to the >>> semantics of the x86 programming language no DDD >>> ever reaches its own "ret" instruction halt state. >>> >> >> So, you demonstrate your utter stupidity and use of incorrect definitions. >> >> For EVERY HHH at machine address 000015d2 that emulates just a finite >> number of steps and return, then the PROGRAM DDD > > does not exist because HHH is invoked from main() A program exists even when never invoded from anywhaere. -- Mikko