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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: III correctly emulated by EEE ---
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On 3/22/2025 12:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/22/25 1:31 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/22/2025 11:37 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:43:03 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>
>>>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>>>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>>> int main()
>>>> {
>>>>     HHH(Infinite_Recursion);
>>>> }
>>>> There is no program DDD in the above code.
>>> There is also no Infinite_Recursion.
>>>
>>>> Since no Turing machine M can ever compute the mapping from the 
>>>> behavior
>>>> of any directly executed TM2 referring to the behavior of the directly
>>>> executed DDD has always been incorrect. Halt Deciders always report on
>>>> the behavior that their input finite string specifies.
>>
>>> Please explain what behaviour the description of a TM "specifies",
>>> and which TM the input describes.
>>>
>>
>> "Bill sang a song" describes what Bill did.
>> A tape recording of Bill singing that same
>> song completely specifies what Bill did.
> 
> And what a UTM does with this input completely specifies its behavior,
> 
>>
>>>> In every case that does not involve pathological self-reference the
>>>> behavior that the finite string specifies is coincidentally the same
>>>> behavior as the direct execution of the corresponding machine. The
>>>> actual measure, however, has always been the behavior that the finite
>>>> string input specifies.
>>> ...which is the direct execution. Not much of a coincidence.
>>>
>>
>> _III()
>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>> [00002173] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp  ; housekeeping
>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push III
>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call EEE(III)
>> [0000217f] 83c404     add  esp,+04
>> [00002182] 5d         pop  ebp
>> [00002183] c3         ret
>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>
>> When-so-ever any correct emulator EEE correctly emulates
>> a finite number of steps of an input III that calls this
>> same emulator to emulate itself the behavior of the direct
>> execution of III will not be the same as the behavior of
>> the emulated III.
>>
> 
> Becuase a finite emulation that stop before the end is not a correct 
> emulation 

In other words you keep dishonestly trying to get away with
disagreeing with the law of identity.

When N steps are III are correctly emulated by EEE
then N steps are III are correctly emulated by EEE.

There exists no Natural Number N number of steps of III
correctly emulated by EEE where III reaches its
own "ret" instruction and terminates normally.

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