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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: The First Swedes Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 18:22:32 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 81 Message-ID: <vrnd6v$3gc63$16@dont-email.me> References: <vrn09n$hp63$1@dont-email.me> <vrn0mq$hp63$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 23:22:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d64bf78a9709f7eca712300422be33e0"; logging-data="3682499"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1MV7MJux3YTDA8YZwz+QM2Pro2Dw/x+Q=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:oY+PoW7lSPb3N64KEQMijZiJPho= Content-Language: en-CA X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250322-4, 3/22/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vrn0mq$hp63$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5019 On 2025-03-22 2:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > On Mar 22, 2025 at 11:41:59 AM PDT, "BTR1701" <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > >> State TV in Sweden (SVT) has produced a big budget series called HISTORY OF >> SWEDEN. >> >> This is who the government wants its people to believe were are the first >> Swedes: >> >> >> >> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1903440799997796352/vid/avc1/1484x1080/zSkOkYQL6jojG3pq.mp4?tag=16 > > Sorry, accidentally hit 'send' too soon. > > The SVT series "Historien om Sverige" doesn't just miss the mark—it > obliterates any semblance of historical credibility by casting black actors as > early Swedes, a decision so detached from reality it's laughable. There's not > a shred of archaeological, genetic, or historical evidence suggesting that > sub-Saharan Africans ever set foot in ancient Sweden, let alone ruled it. > > The early inhabitants of Sweden, dating back to the Bromme culture post-Ice > Age (around 12,000 BC) and through the Neolithic and Iron Ages, were > overwhelmingly of northern European descent-- hunter-gatherers, farmers, and > later Norse populations with light skin, varied eye colors, and genetics > tracing back to local European ancestry, not Africa. Genetic studies spanning > 2,000 years (as detailed in ScienceDirect's research) show influences from the > eastern Baltic, British-Irish Isles, and southern Europe, but zero indication > of African migration or rulership in Scandinavia during these periods. > > This isn't creative license; it's historical malpractice done in service to > pushing a modern political agenda. Portraying early Swedes as black is a > deliberate erasure of the region's actual past, trading fact for feel-good > fiction to appease contemporary diversity quotas. > > The Brits are getting a lot of that invented history too and not just in TV programs. Here's an example from TV: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d7k6D9aElCg [1 minute] This short video cites grievous errors from something being sold as a history book and possibly being used as a textbook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT9pQi8JBFs [4 minutes] The comments under it are more than a little concerning. Apparently, some books are now insisting that Bach, Beethoven, Mozart and others were black or Moorish (a mix of black and Arab). This video seems to be asserting that blacks are present throughout British history but implies that a lot of this history has been "hidden by family estates or inaccessible documents". I'm not sure what these hidden family estates are about: are they claiming that certain well-to-do families - or even the royal family itself - are hiding black people in their pasts BEFORE Megan Markle? And what is this business about "inaccessible documents"? They seem to be inferring that documents to prove the existence of many black people DO exist but are being somehow suppressed by some person or organization, presumably to keep Brits from knowing about all these wonderful but hidden black people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_muoezyI3U [3 minutes] A number of comments under this one are hilarious, like the one imagining a film about Shaka Zulu with Tom Cruise playing the lead. This invented history needs to stop! By all means, let's recognize the significant blacks in history - and also the significant Asians, women, Europeans AND men - but making up people and achievements out of whole cloth is a despicable practice. This may leave some people feeling under-represented but we should be presenting TRUTH as best as we can determine it, not inventing achievements just to pander to groups that may not have been particularly significant in a given era (mostly because they weren't even IN the geographical region in question). -- Rhino