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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 22:17:58 -0400
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On 3/21/2025 10:16 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:05:24 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 3/21/2025 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:20:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2025 11:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently the far right still maintains its world view by ignoring
>>>>>>>>> all relevant facts it dislikes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An universal trait, across all ideologies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I strongly disagree. "Univeral" seems to imply "everybody" of "all
>>>>>>> ideologies." I think complete dismissal of facts is far, far more
>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>> on the right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's more common universally is to disagree on the relative
>>>>>>> importance
>>>>>>> of various bits of data. And there were long periods in U.S. history
>>>>>>> when that was the main subject of disputes - which data set is more
>>>>>>> significant? Which facts should get more attention? Which issues are
>>>>>>> more important?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're far beyond that now, at least with the right wing. Once a Trump
>>>>>>> administration invented "alternative facts" verifiable data went
>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>> window. The right now has a strong tendency to blatantly invent
>>>>>>> "facts"
>>>>>>> to justify its ideas. Vance essentially confessed to that, regarding
>>>>>>> small town Ohio pets being eaten by immigrants, claiming it was OK to
>>>>>>> "create stories" - IOW, outright lie. Musk is "finding" billions and
>>>>>>> billions of dollars of fraud that regularly disappears whenever anyone
>>>>>>> else looks into the details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your efforts today are less blatant, but related: "Here's _one_
>>>>>>> glacier
>>>>>>> that grew, so we should ignore the immense worldwide shrinking of
>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>> all glaciers." And "Land here is slowly sinking, so we should ignore
>>>>>>> worldwide satellite measurements showing oceans rising."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recall hearing that Joe Biden is so sharp that his staff can't keep
>>>>>> up with him.  That Trump went to Russia and had women pee on him. That
>>>>>> there was choice but to pack up and leave Afghanistan the way it was
>>>>>> done.  That there was no way to close the border without Congressional
>>>>>> action. That Hunter Biden would not be pardoned. (etc)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both sides lie. Both sides make up "Facts." Both sides fund their pet
>>>>>> projects. Both sides are crooks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Speaker Pelosi to Congress
>>>>>> "We need to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
>>>>
>>>> Leave it to the dumbass to intentionally conflate politics with science.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dishonesty may be among our smaller problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ms Pelosi also said (clearly and correctly) that Mr Biden could not
>>>>> waive student loans without an Act of Congress.
>>>>>
>>>>> Merely being truthful and correct had no affect on what actually
>>>>> happened, as Mr Biden bragged about subsequently defying the direct
>>>>> Supreme Court ruling.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, he didn't. He said "we'll have to find another way to do it".
>>>>
>>>
>>> And then continued anyway, misusing a 'special cases' provision for
>>> large classes of borrowers.
>>>
>>> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at retail in cash were
>>> miffed at least.
>>
>> Must have felt the same way my cousin did when the drinking age in
>> Massachusetts was lowered to 18 the day after he turned 21.
>>
>> That's not the way life turns sometimes - I learned to live with it.
>>
>> My loans were paid off long ago, but I thought student loan forgiveness
>> was a great idea, and still do. One of the reasons this country lags in
>> education is that we make it hard to get one. It's why Musk wants to
>> keep the H1B program going, and convinced trump to make it so - couple
>> that with this asinine thought that the government shouldn't be involved
>> in education, and it's no wonder American companies need to have foreign
>> students.
>>
>> It's smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
> 
> And as soon as the Government gets involved in education you will hear
> a great cry of "Brain Washing".

been there, done that....