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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.math Subject: Re: There is no logic here (Was: Quine's "Word & Object") Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:05:29 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vrpbg8$2n6vl$1@dont-email.me> References: <D3Wdna5Sf9VVoEP6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <zLqdnYn5HIaY60L6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <vrp3h9$2c3uj$1@dont-email.me> <xVCdndBZ0M8Nu336nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vrpa9o$2gelp$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:05:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b265737c59eb3acffaf394766377ae82"; logging-data="2857973"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/zrk1Czsv22COHpLvY5MGwnU95HfMSm7M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:pWdBfzqPwVD17zVCvDtq0FuGf+I= Content-Language: en-GB, it In-Reply-To: <vrpa9o$2gelp$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2611 On 23/03/2025 16:44, Julio Di Egidio wrote: > On 23/03/2025 16:19, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> On 03/23/2025 06:49 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote: >>> On 23/03/2025 03:46, Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> Sort of like W.H.F. Barnes or R.G. Collingwood, yet really for >> both Kant and Hegel, who both had both a strong analytical >> and thoroughly idealistic course, has that Quine's wrestling >> with concepts of logical paradox, never sees him quite win, >> which can only result from resolving them. > > I do have given you a/the resolution, then you keep calling > *me* an/the idealist. Indeed, if all you have is a/that > hammer, ideally then materially, *and* not giving it up. > >> Thanks for your reply, and please explain how there can be >> a true theory overall at all, vis-a-vis some ideal Comenius >> language and our mere human inter-subjective Coleridge language, >> that there is one at all results from plain reason. > > You are welcome. The short answer there is: your question > is as ill-founded as your "philosophy" (your dictionary and > index); indeed, who said Logic is about "ultimate truth(s?)"? But I had already given you the long answer, and it's neither the Devine language, nor the Babel's tower: <https://seprogrammo.blogspot.com/2024/01/on-logic-of-it.html> > Related: what is Philosophy? Can you read at all? ;) -Julio