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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: British Man Arrested for Saying He Doesn't Like Palestinian Flags Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:56:54 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <vrq036$3a4tv$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrpqu9$35t1d$1@dont-email.me> <vrpu8b$379os$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 22:56:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1ea9c5475543669c358e6fac63756154"; logging-data="3478463"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19KgFig20Bkt+eOKveJllbD9znkiRjYNT4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:UrNuAWd/fHwCybOHRoYA1m1Vvlc= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250323-4, 3/23/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vrpu8b$379os$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-CA On 2025-03-23 5:25 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: > >> British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags >> in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his house >> and arrested him for it. > >> https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769 > > I had a very difficult time hearing the audio. > > Is it this arrest at 9:55 pm Tuesday 10/31/2023 > > https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1830176/man-arrested-racist-palestine-flag-video > > The charge: racially aggravated Section 5 public order offence > > If the objection is to flying a flag, which is an assertion of > nationalism, I don't see the "racial" aspect. Note that this is an > AGGRAVATING factor; the prosecution is seeking a steeper penalty. > > But this is a moviePig crime and words mean whatever we want them to > mean. "Racial" includes "nationality" or "national origins". Remember, > it's the offender's perception, not the fact of the group offended. It's > an expression of hostility and if the offender expressed hostility that > is NOT criminalized, that's not considered. > > https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/28 > > moviePig wrote these helpful charging guidelines to guide police: > > https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07 > > The underlying crime includes Section 4. Check out the interpretation > that the offending speaker could be a victim of another crime himself > when he utters offending words and can thus be charged with his own > crime. In fact, Section 4 applies even if what the offender did isn't an > assault! > > https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07 > > moviePig has already won. To paraphrase something whose origins I've forgotten: "It's a moviePig world and we're just living in it - for now." -- Rhino