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From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
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Subject: Re: British Man Arrested for Saying He Doesn't Like Palestinian Flags
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:56:54 -0400
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On 2025-03-23 5:25 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> British man posts online that he doesn't like to see all the Palestine flags
>> in his city. Shortly afterward, at 4MA, British police broke into his house
>> and arrested him for it.
> 
>> https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903716412968857769
> 
> I had a very difficult time hearing the audio.
> 
> Is it this arrest at 9:55 pm Tuesday 10/31/2023
> 
> https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1830176/man-arrested-racist-palestine-flag-video
> 
> The charge: racially aggravated Section 5 public order offence
> 
> If the objection is to flying a flag, which is an assertion of
> nationalism, I don't see the "racial" aspect. Note that this is an
> AGGRAVATING factor; the prosecution is seeking a steeper penalty.
> 
> But this is a moviePig crime and words mean whatever we want them to
> mean. "Racial" includes "nationality" or "national origins". Remember,
> it's the offender's perception, not the fact of the group offended. It's
> an expression of hostility and if the offender expressed hostility that
> is NOT criminalized, that's not considered.
> 
> https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/28
> 
> moviePig wrote these helpful charging guidelines to guide police:
> 
> https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07
> 
> The underlying crime includes Section 4. Check out the interpretation
> that the offending speaker could be a victim of another crime himself
> when he utters offending words and can thus be charged with his own
> crime. In fact, Section 4 applies even if what the offender did isn't an
> assault!
> 
> https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/public-order-offences-incorporating-charging-standard#a07
> 
> moviePig has already won.

To paraphrase something whose origins I've forgotten: "It's a moviePig 
world and we're just living in it - for now."

-- 
Rhino