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On 3/24/2025 6:52 AM, zen cycle wrote:
> On 3/23/2025 8:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 3/23/2025 7:47 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 09:37:59 -0500, AMuzi 
>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/22/2025 8:32 PM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 3/21/2025 10:06 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:27:18 -0700,
>>>>>>     Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I could use some opinions here.  Is this video of 
>>>>>>> China
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>    real? "This Video Will Change Your View of CHINA! 
>>>>>>> (no more
>>>>>>>    lies)"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9iaYliMSg> (11:17)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    It presents a very positive view of China from the
>>>>>>> point of
>>>>>>>    view of a resident who emigrated from England 13 
>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>> ago.
>>>>>>>    Is all of urban China like that, or is he cherry
>>>>>>> picking the
>>>>>>>    best and most modern areas?  Do the videos look like
>>>>>>> they have
>>>>>>>    been "improved" with AI?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   From about 2005 to 2019 I made something like 20-30 
>>>>>> trips to
>>>>>> China.  The largest number were to Beijing, but I also
>>>>>> spent some
>>>>>> time (multiple days each) in Shanghai, Tianjin, 
>>>>>> Guangzhou,
>>>>>> Jinan,
>>>>>> Chengdu, and probably a couple others I'm not recalling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I only watched the first few minutes of the video, and
>>>>>> thought it
>>>>>> was not terribly off base--though somewhat 
>>>>>> optimistic.  I've
>>>>>> ridden on the bullet trains, including first class.  It's
>>>>>> not bad,
>>>>>> but nowhere as nice as the shinkansen in Japan.  In 
>>>>>> general,
>>>>>> things are grubbier up close and not uncommonly in 
>>>>>> need of
>>>>>> repair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, one conference center I was at had carpet
>>>>>> that was
>>>>>> stained and dirty and had obviously been brought in from
>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>> else.  The edges were loose and didn't quite fit.
>>>>>> Cupboard doors
>>>>>> in hotel rooms may have broken hinges.  The air in most
>>>>>> cities is
>>>>>> atrocious--unless a front had come through and cleared 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> air, my
>>>>>> sinuses typically burned from the moment of getting off
>>>>>> the plane
>>>>>> until leaving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The nicest hotels are quite nice, and amazingly
>>>>>> affordable.  On
>>>>>> the other hand, you can walk less than a mile and find
>>>>>> yourself in
>>>>>> alleyways that are somewhat scary--at least I felt a bit
>>>>>> nervous
>>>>>> walking alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure if that answers your question, so please feel
>>>>>> free to ask
>>>>>> more specifics if you like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> nice response/commentary Ted. I lived in japan for just 
>>>>> over
>>>>> 3 years but it was in the early 1970s when my dad was
>>>>> stationed here. Things have changed quite a bit since 
>>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> +1 it has indeed.
>>>>
>>>> Girlfriend lived on Okinawa 1970~1971 and says there were
>>>> open ditches of sewage with huge rats and the tap water was
>>>> not drinkable.  Utterly unlike my frequent trips on Honshu
>>>> 1980~1990.
>>>
>>>
>>> Until July 2071 Okinawa was controlled by the US.
>>>
>>
>> Right and there were riots at reversion as Okinawans 
>> thought better of US servicemen than of Japanese. For good 
>> reason.
> 
> 
> You have that exactly backwards. The Okinawans were tired 
> and disgusted by the US troop presence, culminating in 
> protests over the gang rape of a 12-year-old Okinawan girl 
> by three US servicemen.
> 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20210611055447/http:// 
> edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9510/okinawa_protest/index.html
> 
> Civilian pressure had been mounting to remove the US troops 
> for many years. The gang rape pushed it to the edge and 
> forced the tranfers..
> 
> Any protests you might have read about weren't to maintain 
> US presence.
> 
>>
> 

You are right and I was wrong.

Turns out her memory wasn't quite right:
https://okinawamemories.org/the-koza-uprising/

For the interested reader , a Marxist analysis:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv75db00.10?seq=16



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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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