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From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: What are the chances of this encrytion being broken?
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 19:20:46 +0000
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On 24/03/2025 19:07, Stefan Claas wrote:

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> I don't understand your rubberhose arguments, I must admit. If a sender
> has a Government trojan on his device, no rubberhose is needed. If the
> sender uses (without a Government trojan) anonymous Networks, which it
> seems you guys are not using (yet), how would be rubberhose applied, if
> they can't find the sender?

If they can't find Alice, they can have a quiet word with Bob.

Poor Bob.

So, I hear you ask, what if they can't identify /either/ of them?

But if they don't know who Alice and Bob are, what possible 
reason could they have for reading their mail? The security 
services don't begin an investigation by plucking 700 bytes from 
the ether on the off-chance that underneath some home-grown 
crypto it might say something like "attack at dawn".

No, they start with people, and people are very easy to kick the 
living daylights out of until they give up their algorithms and 
their keys.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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