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From: Ernest Major <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk>
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On 24/03/2025 16:02, Mark Isaak wrote:
> On 3/14/25 7:23 PM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
>> On 13-Mar-25 23:01, RonO wrote:
>>> On 3/13/2025 11:06 AM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
>>>> On 13-Mar-25 11:17, RonO wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/2025 12:03 AM, JTEM wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/7/25 10:21 PM, RonO wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canada's new PM is assuming emergency powers just to deal with
>>>>>> a trade war that they created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think Trump is going to do, if you succeed in
>>>>>> whipping up hysteria?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> What a nut job.  Trump is already responsible for the politics 
>>>>> responsible for the CDC and USDA not doing their jobs.  He and his 
>>>>> Republican cronies had already burned the CDC and USDA as they 
>>>>> attempted to deal with Covid.  The USDA was warned repeatedly that 
>>>>> they were limited on messing with the food system, and they wanted 
>>>>> to prosecute employees of the CDC just for doing their jobs and 
>>>>> making the Trumpies look bad.  When the Dairy epidemic started they 
>>>>> were already gun shy about doing the right thing.
>>>>
>>>> And the USDA has been badly understaffed for ages. I don't know 
>>>> about the CDC specifically, but I suspect they are facing the same 
>>>> problem. Many regulatory agencies are so severely understaffed that 
>>>> they're forced to rely on the "Trust Me Bro" approach to compliance 
>>>> verification. I don't know about you, but I'd prefer not to go back 
>>>> to the bad old days of needing to cross my fingers and hope the meat 
>>>> in my frankfurter is actually from pigs or cows.
>>>>
>>>> The truth is the federal civilian workforce is too small, and has 
>>>> been for decades. The size of the federal workforce has shrunk since 
>>>> 1990, despite the total labor force growing by more than a third. 
>>>> All the bafflegab about "bloated government" is coming from 
>>>> plutocrats who don't want us peons receiving any government services 
>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>> Shorter staffed now.  What Trump and DOGE have done is pretty 
>>> moronic. They aren't cutting waste by mass firings and closing down 
>>> departments. They are wasting billions of dollars that have already 
>>> been spent.  Just what he has tried to do with science will likely 
>>> disrupt science in this country for decades.  All the new researchers 
>>> that have lost funding or aren't getting it could be lost to science 
>>> in the future.  Shutting down the programs the way that he has is 
>>> wasting billions of dollars that have already been spent to get those 
>>> programs working, and what they currently have in production is being 
>>> lost.  Projects will never be completed that would have done the 
>>> country good, and had already cost a lot to get going.
>>>
>>>  From my perspective Trump could be the worst national security 
>>> breech in the history of the United States.  Putin's influence over 
>>> Trump was apparent in his first administration.  How could an enemy 
>>> nation ever get the president of the United States into a private 
>>> conference with Putin with only a Russian interpreter present?  It is 
>>> no secret that Russia interfered with all three of Trump's 
>>> presidential election bids in order to get Trump elected.  Trumps 
>>> policies seem to have always been Russia first.  Trump spent most of 
>>> his first term alienating our long time allies and disrupting NATO.  
>>> His activities this term have been more overt in favoring Russia. His 
>>> policies have not been America first, but to weaken our world 
>>> position, stop humanitarian aid, alienate our long term Allies, 
>>> disrupt NATO and attempt to disrupt the US by weakening our economy 
>>> and trashing our scientific future that has made our country what it 
>>> is today.  US citizens pay for the Tariffs that he is imposing, and 
>>> what is that going to do for inflation?  All the major science 
>>> journals are published in English, Trump's policies are designed to 
>>> reverse that.  China is building a science juggernaut, and has 
>>> started creating Chinese science journals.  Some of the last few 
>>> papers that I reviewed had started citing papers in those Chinese 
>>> journals.  It might not be long before our graduate schools will have 
>>> to reinstitute the foreign language requirement.
>>>
>>> We likely should try to figure out why Russia interfered with all the 
>>> elections trying to get Trump elected.  Trump needs to have a good 
>>> explanation for why a leader of a Western free nation would be 
>>> suckered into a private conference with a leader of an enemy nation 
>>> with no US interpreter present.  Why would Trump be claiming that the 
>>> Covid epidemic wasn't so bad and that testing wasn't needed, and at 
>>> the same time he was sending covid equipment to his friend Putin. 
>>> Trump is even said to be working up a military plan for Panama.  What 
>>> will that do to the US status among the free world?  Trump has even 
>>> claimed that he admires Putin.  Would dictator worship have been 
>>> tolerated by the Republican party 20 years ago?  It would certainly 
>>> not have been tolerated in the Reagan era.  This is just my political 
>>> observation, but something stinks.
>>
>> Why Russia would interfere with the elections is obvious: They figured 
>> out how to wage war in the social media battlespace earlier and better 
>> than the US did. The Russian Federation aims to be an empire again, 
>> and bring all of its former territories back under its wise and 
>> benevolent tank-treads. It's hard to do that if the United States has 
>> a robust economy, has enormous soft power on the world stage, and 
>> leads a strong and coherent NATO. So they get a biddable fool into 
>> office to turn Americans against each other, demonstrate to our allies 
>> that we're no longer reliable, sabotage our economy, withdraw us from 
>> NATO, and generally act like a prancing dipshit.
>>
>> Note that the election-meddling is effective even when it doesn't 
>> install Moscow's guy in office: If nothing else, it still saps 
>> political capital and de-legitimizes the victor. And as long as the 
>> United States becomes more fractious and impotent, the Russian 
>> Federation's goals are advanced.
>>
>> Why does Trump go along with it? I don't know. It's possible Putin has 
>> some good old-fashioned kompromat on him — although it's hard to 
>> imagine what secret could possibly be vile enough to turn the chuds on 
>> Dear Leader at this point. [...]
> 
> I suspect simple flattery. It's easy to con a conman.
> 
> [snip more stuff I agree with.
> 
>>
>> And yeah, racism this open wouldn't have been tolerated in the Reagan 
>> era (though the queerphobia sure was!) but this is the direction the 
>> GOP has been moving for decades. [...]
> 
> One small correction: The GOP no longer exists.  The Republican Party 
> still exists in name, but it bears almost no resemblance to what the GOP 
> was.  It would be better labels the American Fascist Party.
> 
> I wish Nyikos were still alive so I could ask him how Trump is 
> substantially different from Hitler, now that Trump has said he wants to 
> kill hundreds of thousands of people by cutting USAID.
> 

Peter did claim to be a never-Trumper, and repeated that claim long 
after Trump's first inauguration, even after Trump's installation of a 
unelected black-robed Integralist dictatorship.

-- 
alias Ernest Major