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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 20:36:55 -0700
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On 2025-03-24 20:22, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>      I
>>>>>>>>> have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of
>>>>>>>>> running the computer and using things that use RAM.
>>>>>>>> So show it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why?  What do I need to prove I'm telling you the truth about such a
>>>>>>> simple matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because it's easy, and if you could show it, you would.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not showing it makes you look like a liar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think my collection of concurrently running apps would not use
>>>>> any RAM, or something?
>>>>
>>>> I think you could show us...
>>>>
>>>> ...if you didn't have something to hide.
>>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/bNZVr8U.png
>>
>> You've just shown that you DO NOT need 32GB of RAM...
> 
> 
> Are you that dumb?

Not as dumb as you...

>  It was using over 25 billion bytes of RAM,
> including cache.  16 GB would be far below that.

1. It was only "using over 25 billion bytes of RAM" because you're 
counting caching; which is what smart systems do when there's RAM lying 
around free.

2. You seem to think that the next step below having 32GB of RAM is 16GB.