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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: Trump's latest lunacy
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 03:08:38 +1100
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On 26/03/2025 2:24 am, Don Y wrote:
> On 3/25/2025 7:48 AM, bitrex wrote:
>> So just build houses for the homeless and then they won't be homeless 
>> anymore, 
> 
> No.  There will *still* be homeless people, regardless of the level of
> support that you provide.
> 
> Unless you resort to "institutionalizing" people "for their own good".
> 
> Housing needs to be *affordable* and sited in locations that folks
> will be comfortable living (and MAKING a living).  No one wants to
> "invest" in places where the only folks who will want to habitate
> can't afford to provide sufficient profit for the investor -- esp
> if there are other places where they can make a bigger, quicker buck!
> 
> A lot of "charity" produces little "result".  We've canvased lots
> of them with an eye towards our estate planning.  If you hold
> their feet to the fire and ask for documented results of their
> past efforts, most will timidly admit that they haven't met
> their own stated goals!
> 
> ["How many of these battered women have you managed to give new
> lives through your efforts?"  "None, really.  They all end up
> back in the same sorts of situations that led them to coming here".

The psychological problems that lead some women to latch onto men who go 
in for coercive control aren't easy to treat, but it's still worth 
offering refuges for women (and their kids) who have got stuck with 
particularly revolting partners.

It's the same kind of problem as alcohol and drug dependence and problem 
gambling. The fact that he problems are hard to deal with is not a 
reason to ignore them.

> "Then, why would I want to gift you anything if your 'results' are
> only temporary?  What is the 'lifetime maintenance cost' for these
> people that you CLAIM to be serving?  Aren't you obviously doing
> something WRONG??"]

Whatever they are doing is less wrong than trying to ignore the problem.
It's not as effective as we would like it to be, but it seems to be 
better than nothing.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney