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From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method
 for returning a string from a C program?)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:04:51 +0100
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On 25.03.2025 16:33, David Brown wrote:
> On 25/03/2025 13:02, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
>>
>> "Whole numbers" are all non-negative.
>>
>> "Integers" include values less than zero.
> 
> "Everyday English" does not cover negative numbers at all - in "everyday
> English", "integer" and "whole number" are basically synonymous and mean
> 1, 2, 3, etc.
> 
> But in standard mathematical usage, "whole numbers" are non-negative,
> while "integers" include negative numbers.  (There is no solid agreement
> about whether 0 is a "whole number" or not.)  [...]

This all is interesting. - As a non-native English speaker that's not
obvious. - Where I live we have learned

ℕ (called "natural numbers"): 1, 2, ...

ℕ with an index 0 (positive/non-negative whole numbers): 0, 1, 2, ...

ℤ (integer numbers, called "whole numbers"): ..., -1, 0, 1, 2, ...


Janis