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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 11:09:33 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <vrv9it$997i$2@dont-email.me> References: <xxxxxx-830806.00002125032025@news.supernews.com> <KBxEP.1621523$TBhc.513900@fx16.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 23:09:34 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7c5a19fd1e899098dea81d3a0a3c19a9"; logging-data="304370"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+epYInAQtjUnHJR3V5FrydbJ9aN67VuOA=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dlO5T6lJms8UNR6NR82bdFb6hm0= Bytes: 2485 On 2025-03-25 12:47:39 +0000, CrudeSausage said: > On 2025-03-25 00:00, Johnny LaRue wrote: >> In article <uorjtj1svg4iel6a1il22vrqbe394idovc@4ax.com>, >> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >> >> Yes, Apple costs more than Dell. And BMWs cost more than Chevys. And >> steak costs more than chicken. >> >> What is your point? >> >> But what is the alleged "sacrifice of control"? What does that even >> mean? My Macs are somehow "out of control"? > > He's suggesting that in addition to Apple devices being more or less a > walled garden (not really since you can install from outside the Apple > Store even though the operating system makes that needlessly annoying > for some applications like Betterbird), you lose control in that your > hardware is abandoned after a number of years. On an x86-64 machine, > this isn't a problem since you can go ahead and install Linux. However, > once Apple decides not to supply you with MacOS anymore, you're stuck. > You /CAN/ continue to use it, but the lack of updates might make its > use a danger if you are connecting to the Internet. If you really wanted to, you can install Linux on a Mac that is supposedly "too old" as well.