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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 23:35:35 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <vrvb3o$aoc0$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrd77d$3nvtf$2@dont-email.me> <868qp1ra5f.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrdhok$47cb$2@dont-email.me> <20250319115550.0000676f@yahoo.com> <vreuj1$1asii$4@dont-email.me> <vreve4$19klp$2@dont-email.me> <20250319201903.00005452@yahoo.com> <86r02roqdq.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrh1br$35029$2@dont-email.me> <LRUCP.2$541.0@fx47.iad> <vrh71t$3be42$1@dont-email.me> <KFVCP.594649$SZca.498578@fx13.iad> <vrhb77$3frk8$1@dont-email.me> <vrru8f$174q6$1@dont-email.me> <86o6xpk8sn.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrtmu4$2s1q2$1@dont-email.me> <20250325011327.41@kylheku.com> <20250325131110.000056bd@yahoo.com> <vruu75$3umpc$2@dont-email.me> <87a5987sh8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 23:35:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="813384d315825bc946a757562d57ea61"; logging-data="352640"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19C+umVGB3OlCB5EeLTO8i4" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:UTexKAzR3LfK4XxQH1W2p1r46iA= In-Reply-To: <87a5987sh8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Bytes: 3220 On 25.03.2025 21:41, Keith Thompson wrote: > Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes: >> On 25.03.2025 12:11, Michael S wrote: >>>> [...] >>> >>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English? >> >> If I speak about numbers I name them so; "numbers", "whole numbers", >> "integer numbers", "real numbers" (not "floating point numbers"). >> Sometimes, depending on context, I use the term "scalar". When I'm >> speaking about "integral types" I don't restrict that term to numbers. > > Real numbers and floating-point numbers have different meanings, both in > C and in general. > > In C, both integer and floating-point types are "real" (as opposed > to complex or imaginary), though I consider this use of "real" to > be a bit obscure. [...] In my native language (and also what I inferred from some posts here about the English language) I see differences between three domains; colloquial language, mathematics, and computer terms. These terms are not (not completely) coherently defined across the domains it seems. The solution is to try to use the words for the discussion from the appropriate domain (in both languages). For me there's an additional practical fact to keep in mind; that what we call "Ganzzahl" (whole numbers) isn't corresponding to what "whole number" means in English, as I learned. Janis