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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 09:39:25 +1100 Organization: VMS Liberation Front Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vrvbb2$arv9$1@dont-email.me> References: <j7jutjdo007jkfp956ofp846ecb0nfpr32@4ax.com> <vrnmla$155vg$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 23:39:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4f25ac8da2f1b2e605783cd2bf4e39b5"; logging-data="356329"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+dHwtmHt+ybGFxyMaDTtEUBsJVsq/DtfQZSFNQDip2xA==" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/55.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:u0Q3qsvM09KHIcYVsSqsKQ01Ddw= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vrnmla$155vg$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2865 On 23/03/2025 12:03 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 10:55:00 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta wrote: > >> EiffelStudio is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE), that enable >> programmers to produce correct, reliable, maintainable software and >> control the development process. If you want to create fast, robust, >> scalable applications, then EiffelStudio gives you a cost-effective >> option. > > I’ve lost count of the number of times people have said they have a > solution to all the world’s programming problems, just so long as you > change your entire process to do things their way. > > We live in a multilingual, multiplatform, multi-build-system world. Nobody > wants a new language or IDE that requires you to conform to its particular > view of how to do things. > Well, VSI, needs to focus on meeting the needs of the rusted on VMS shops, first off, and primarily. However, the VMS system needs to be revitalised, and that means providing certified compilers for modern languages. Rust is a 110% no brainer. Not to stray off-topic, but a VSI/ELN RTOS, written in Rust, would be way cool, and may thrill the industrial process guys in the VMS shops. Erlang and Elixir would be most attractive as well: https://www.erlang.org/ https://elixir-lang.org/ Not that I can weigh in with any technical quality, on such matters, the plethora of modern languages puts my head in a spin. I hark back from a time of blinking lights, piano key consoles, and false floors, and the likes of Fortran, Algol, Cobol, PL/1, and APL. Come to think of it, VSI/VMS/APL would be way cool - just because! - Two Big Kens - Ken Iverson, and Ken Olsen.