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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 17:45:20 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 67 Message-ID: <vrvbm1$b2rv$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrru3v$152e3$3@dont-email.me> <B0kEP.112929$Xq5f.111799@fx38.iad> <f9k3ujl9ev5nopn2f329cuesca36o9c7j0@4ax.com> <vrskop$1qlue$1@dont-email.me> <uloEP.112930$Xq5f.40392@fx38.iad> <soh5ujt5fuqrmvaj2gsl1qudk17v38ldva@4ax.com> <nXDEP.70106$D41.26512@fx45.iad> <6h96ujts05t1gdb93vrj41i7rbiid80qe5@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 23:45:21 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="156e323c3aba65964f1eaa3caea2714e"; logging-data="363391"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+l2phwqSx0IM3/ghmCM8S1" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vBSpbZuOuRPLdBeHsIP+POP16Tg= In-Reply-To: <6h96ujts05t1gdb93vrj41i7rbiid80qe5@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4187 On 3/25/2025 5:04 PM, Shadow wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:00:19 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> On Tue Mar 25 12:12:26 2025 Shadow wrote: >>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 02:15:54 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon Mar 24 17:02:01 2025 Mark J cleary wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I like to wear helmet for extra protection against a fall. I do agree >>>>> that for me even running with a helmet would be good since I have no >>>>> balance to run anymore. However, Frank is I think in the minority about >>>>> helmets and while he may have data to support it sometimes we humans >>>>> overlook data. I rely sometimes only on intuition and what I think might >>>>> be good. I really don't understand the length's Frank goes to dis >>>>> helmets but maybe I am simply taking it more than it is. Small news >>>>> group so? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There weren 597,000 bicycle related traumatic brain injuries treated in emergency hospitals in the US alone. >>> >>> 99% are "I think I might have bumped my head" >>> >>> PS Half a million brain injuries ? Is this over a month? >>> No wonder they voted wrong. >>> I'd vote wrong if I had a brain injury. >>> []'s >>>> >>>> Btain injuries are among the most serious consequences of bicycle accidents and include concussions, moderate to severe traumatic brain injuries and post-concussive syndrome. >>>> >>>> But Frank tells us that these injuries do not exist in his universe. >> >> >> >> >> Shadow, those are HOSPITAL EVALUATED injuries and not your idea of "I think I bumped my head". These are SHOWN on an MRI as was mine. I suggest if you don't understand what is being said that you simply ask a question. We are happy to answer your questions. >> >> When they say "traumatic brain injuries, that meand they have been diagnosed either with x-rays which show major damage or Magnetic Resonance Imaging which shows everything. > > NO, TBI means anything from a slight headache to a small > hematoma to the skull. Or even if the patient says "I think I bumped > my head". > Some hospitals ask "did you bump your head?" and if the > patient can't remember, mark "yes" for insurance purposes. > Brain damage rarely shows on a simple Xray, unless there is a > fracture. An MRI might or might not show anything. Ditto a CT scan. > Depends if there is any bleeding or swelling. > The diagnosis is usually clinical. Loss of function, temporary > blindness or deafness, loss of memory(main sign of concussion), > confusion etc. And those can all have other causes. > > Never trust what the hospitals say. Not in a country where > they are run as a business. > []'s They are a racket. A business in interested in competing against other businesses for satisfied customers at a competitive price. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971