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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Subcommandante XDelta <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: The news letter of VMSgenerations "la lettre de VMSgenerations" (number 2) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 12:01:10 +1100 Organization: VMS Liberation Front Lines: 48 Message-ID: <vrvjkq$i366$1@dont-email.me> References: <m3fvpbFtlgU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 02:01:15 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8348703e04a6d040004715d5865fbbce"; logging-data="593094"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+A92sygt1BYW2tjQKPLKrCuNbmrsW9CkHtJcWrM32f/w==" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:55.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/55.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ouqK1jXlAH3bEYoNH3GHX51yUJg= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <m3fvpbFtlgU1@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 2954 On 13/03/2025 11:01 pm, VMSgenerations wrote: > Dear friends of VMS, > > The second issue of our news letter is already here. > > We hope you'll enjoy it. And we look forward to receiving your feedback. > > You'll find this document at URL: > https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/la-lettre-de-vmsgenerations-n2-EN/ > > VMSgenerations working group It's very good that you highlighted the issue of bare metal. Everyone wants it - VMS in rugged, hairs on chest, chug a lug Solo, macho-boffo, bare metal mode, rather than mincing Hypervisor drag (not that there's anything wrong with that! - horses for courses!) However, VSI are being prissy, dithering, fusspots, apparently - very leery of opening a Pandora's box of device driver requests - something the VMS ecosystem could provide for and assist with. So the VMSgenerations group could do a VSI a very big favour and choose two board (one Intel based, one AMD based) candidates, that VMSgenerations and their affiliate community would be very happy to have as bare metal targets, to invest in, once VSI certifies them. Vendor lockdown? - meh! - who cares! - Just get the ball rolling, and ensure that any in the existing VMS shop community is not tempted to migrate away - for any such migration is a permanent loss to the VMS ecosystem and a permanent amputation from the VSI income stream. Once VSI mind their P's and Q's and patch their EULA's accordingly, to cover their assets, everything will be tickety-boo, and everyone will be a lot happier. Of course, I'd still love to see bare metal VSI/VMS on the Frame.Work laptops, but I'm not holding my breath, or crossing my legs... BTB, Frame.Work now have an absolute killer desktop configuration as well: https://frame.work/desktop The Frame.Work team continue to smash it.