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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 21:29:57 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vrvlam$j8eo$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrru3v$152e3$3@dont-email.me> <B0kEP.112929$Xq5f.111799@fx38.iad> <f9k3ujl9ev5nopn2f329cuesca36o9c7j0@4ax.com> <vrskop$1qlue$1@dont-email.me> <vrt0d6$24h8c$2@dont-email.me> <pn74ujlurm76jpjfrh0jfbglj1u07ofhq4@4ax.com> <vrud2f$3fet8$1@dont-email.me> <viEEP.69211$d51.40813@fx46.iad> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 02:30:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d6d1025fd90446b0fecbec3723e149c"; logging-data="631256"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/VfigLgfOfJc2gTZvoHSLFDe1yTKJ1KpI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:m8xW4I7v5mMPGjDchN6DU+6FPXU= In-Reply-To: <viEEP.69211$d51.40813@fx46.iad> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3002 On 3/25/2025 4:24 PM, cyclintom wrote: > On Tue Mar 25 10:02:55 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 3/24/2025 11:14 PM, John B. wrote: >>> >>> https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7019a1.htm >>> " Because bicycling continues to grow in popularity,* primarily among >>> U.S. adults, examining the strategies that mitigate the risk for TBI >>> is important. CDC analyzed data from the National Electronic Injury >>> Surveillance System-All Injury Program (NEISS-AIP) to determine the >>> incidence of EDs for bicycle-related TBIs during 2009?2018. An >>> estimated 596,972 ED visits for bicycle-related TBIs occurred in the >>> United States during the study period." >> >> Look up the number for other activities, John. Context is important. >> >> America is a big, big place. All numbers are big. And all big numbers >> are scary for certain people, especially when taken out of context. > > Frank! For Christ's sake do you ever listen to yourself? What you just said is that if MORE people in another practice get MORE TBI's then those on a bicycle aren't worthy of discussion! I said nothing about "worthy of discussion." What I have said in the past is there is far too much fear mongering regarding bicycling. John just did that, quoting a large-sounding number of bicycling injuries, apparently because he thought it was unusually scary. You can't tell if it's unusually scary unless you compare it with other similar numbers. I've done that here many times. Bicycling is NOT an unusual risk for brain injuries, and it's dishonest to claim that it is. The helmet mania is a scam, and it's harmful to bicycling and to society. -- - Frank Krygowski