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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: III correctly emulated by EEE --- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:32:51 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: <vrvsh4$p4vd$2@dont-email.me> References: <vrfuob$256og$1@dont-email.me> <vrmepa$2r2l$1@dont-email.me> <d8ee6d675850304b99af1b587437ba0ac64dbb85@i2pn2.org> <vrms64$cvat$2@dont-email.me> <76e394abe71be9cdc7f1948e73352c4f76ae409e@i2pn2.org> <vrmua7$cvat$8@dont-email.me> <dc633a07cd15e2c80ed98083cc5f9d218edcc9da@i2pn2.org> <vro0hk$1c9ia$1@dont-email.me> <9adf9b9c30250aaa2d3142509036c892db2b7096@i2pn2.org> <vrpfua$2qbhf$2@dont-email.me> <211f9a2a284cb2deaa666f424c1ef826fe855e80@i2pn2.org> <vrq330$3dq3n$1@dont-email.me> <e7268e8ef47579cacb49b0533d51549a77eb0b96@i2pn2.org> <vrqb6f$3k9kh$2@dont-email.me> <3f250e699762cfe6fccc844f10eb04f32d470b6a@i2pn2.org> <vrrpcl$11a56$4@dont-email.me> <8423998561d8feee807509b0ed6335123d35a7c9@i2pn2.org> <vrt3gv$264jb$4@dont-email.me> <448c82acff6b5fc1d2aa266be92df6f778ec2c6a@i2pn2.org> <vru5tp$38ob9$1@dont-email.me> <ac61f679d7ddb39b0ceaedd7f562899d36346535@i2pn2.org> <vrvccp$aq8m$3@dont-email.me> <e166831a8e02332d64ec151f61481e2629e6e53a@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 04:32:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="352afb91538e0f1c4396f4d36cbd0f9a"; logging-data="824301"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+h+t8GjNM1QsPFjXtv/W0t" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vSiTqRzNI8IFPRMmP6ndfon7aCc= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <e166831a8e02332d64ec151f61481e2629e6e53a@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250325-18, 3/25/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 4589 On 3/25/2025 8:14 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/25/25 6:57 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 3/25/2025 4:32 PM, joes wrote: >>> Am Tue, 25 Mar 2025 07:00:57 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 3/25/2025 3:37 AM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:13:51 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>> On 3/24/2025 8:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/24/25 10:14 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/24/2025 6:23 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/23/25 9:06 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/2025 6:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/25 6:47 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/2025 4:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/25 1:21 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/2025 6:07 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/25 11:52 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/2025 9:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/25 2:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There exists no Natural Number N number of steps of III >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated by EEE where III reaches its own "ret" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction and terminates normally. >>> >>>>> But there is an N after which III returns. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Right, and thus you must consider *ALL* of that memory as the >>>>>>>>>>> input, so if you change it, it is a different input. >>>>>>>>>> You haven't yet noticed that all posts with this title [III >>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated by EEE] are talking about a pure emulator that >>>>>>>>>> emulates a finite number of instructions of III. >>> >>>>> Then it is not pure. >>> >>> >>>>> DDD, the input, halts. >>>> The DDD that halts IS NOT AN ACTUAL INPUT TO HHH. >> >>> Then what is? Another program with the same name that doesn't? >>> >> >> An entirely different instance that has different behavior. > > YOu mean it has a different set of instructions? > >> >> It is easier to see this as DDD emulated by HHH where DDD >> defines a pathological relationship with HHH versus DDD >> emulated by HHH1 where there is no such pathological relationship. >> >> DDD/HHH Cannot possibly reach its final halt state. > > So HHH just gives up before reaching the end, Since you know that I know you are lying I dare you to prove your point with actual correct reasoning so that you can make a fool of yourself. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer