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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: bart <bc@freeuk.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 13:12:28 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vs0ufs$1qlju$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrd77d$3nvtf$2@dont-email.me> <868qp1ra5f.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrdhok$47cb$2@dont-email.me> <20250319115550.0000676f@yahoo.com> <vreuj1$1asii$4@dont-email.me> <vreve4$19klp$2@dont-email.me> <20250319201903.00005452@yahoo.com> <86r02roqdq.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrh1br$35029$2@dont-email.me> <LRUCP.2$541.0@fx47.iad> <vrh71t$3be42$1@dont-email.me> <vrh9vh$3ev9o$1@dont-email.me> <vrhct4$3frk8$2@dont-email.me> <20250320204642.0000423a@yahoo.com> <vrhphb$3s62l$1@dont-email.me> <87iko3s3h2.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vrrvgp$1828d$1@dont-email.me> <874izi82a4.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vrttin$321rm$1@dont-email.me> <vrus18$3srn9$1@dont-email.me> <vs0jrf$1hb4h$1@dont-email.me> <vs0mt3$1jp5l$1@dont-email.me> <vs0pgn$1look$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:12:28 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b1044a3401b57bc3da2b217ca554eee5"; logging-data="1922686"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19gFJl2fNjlBObHseqnueeM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vi3mQOMFjh3Pe9Sco1bj6Vgu0oU= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vs0pgn$1look$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3044 On 26/03/2025 11:47, David Brown wrote: > On 26/03/2025 12:02, Richard Harnden wrote: >> On 26/03/2025 10:10, David Brown wrote: >>> But the fact that "octet" was a standardised term for 8 bits prior to >>> the standardisation of the term "byte", does not change the fact that >>> the term "byte" was standardised as 8 bits - in common computing >>> usage by at least 40 years ago (though I still think 50 years ago is >>> reasonable), and in official international standards by at least 30 >>> years ago. >> >> I was taught - probably wrongly - that byte was a contraction of >> 'binary-eight'. >> > > As far as I know, it was just a re-spelling (to avoid mixups with "bit") > of the word "bite" that was used to indicate a small chunk of something. > Certainly the word was used before its size was fixed at 8 bits. > > The word "bit", on the other hand, is often said to come from "binary > digit" or "binary information digit". Personally, I think it is a lot > simpler - it's the smallest usable bit of information you can have. > Saying it is a "binary digit" just makes it clearer how big a bit you have. > So where did a 'bit' being 1/8th of a dollar come from? (As in, two bits being 25 cents.) Maybe a coincidence?