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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 13:36:35 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vs1dv4$26r83$5@dont-email.me> References: <vrru3v$152e3$3@dont-email.me> <B0kEP.112929$Xq5f.111799@fx38.iad> <f9k3ujl9ev5nopn2f329cuesca36o9c7j0@4ax.com> <vrskop$1qlue$1@dont-email.me> <vrt0d6$24h8c$2@dont-email.me> <m4f68uFpiqsU1@mid.individual.net> <ogu4ujpkvk3ck8tojoh6fkq5tbmkmh1oor@4ax.com> <vru3fn$31kv7$1@dont-email.me> <4s45uj1f7a09kdh5cuau8e2k37snjcm2g5@4ax.com> <vrudkh$3fet8$3@dont-email.me> <vruj8u$3i4m6$3@dont-email.me> <vrvmhi$j8eo$3@dont-email.me> <vs0m66$1h7oe$2@dont-email.me> <vs18m6$21gj2$2@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 18:36:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d6d1025fd90446b0fecbec3723e149c"; logging-data="2321667"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19lCiYLCFQ8VzVTNKqzfbbXjrpSy4RgiAs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:n0FdlfdKy5GKAPzqDV8UP5AAMYw= In-Reply-To: <vs18m6$21gj2$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2612 On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > > If activity A causes more TBI deaths than activity B - whether measured > in total (i.e. "cost to society") or, say, in lifetime odds of death (as > in "odds of dying by...") or in, say, number of deaths per mile (for > transportation modes) - then why should activity B get subjected to > helmet nagging when activity A does not? > > On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those metrics. You > obviously don't believe that, but that just means you have more reading > to do. Regarding sources of head injury: See the big pie chart at this site: https://how-sen.com/journal/2014/2/bike-helmets I don't agree with absolutely everything in the article - specifically, Thompson & Rivara's claim of 85% or 88% benefit have _never_ been corroborated. Even their own subsequent work showed much lower protection, and AFAIK all other studies have shown lower protection yet. But the author makes many good points, and I agree with almost all. -- - Frank Krygowski