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Subject: Re: Shutdown vs. Restart
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 17:46:45 -0000 (UTC)
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On 3/26/25 8:25 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> Steve Hayes, 2025-03-24 10:04:
>> 
>> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Learned recently that in later versions of windows, Shutdown does not
>> >> completely shut down windows but Restart does. 
>> >>
>> >> Is that true in Android too? 
>> > 
>> > In Windows, I'm pretty sure it is the other way round. 
>> > 
>> > Restart doesn't completely shut down Windows, but shutdown does. 
>> 
>> No, it's exactly the opposite - because "shutdown" is what people do all
>> the time when they want turn off their computers. For this very reason
>> Windows does only hibernate by default - which means it stores the
>> current RAM content on the SSD so the last state including all open
>> applications will be restored when turning on the computer the next time.



>Sorry, but that's not correct. If you do a 'Shut down' the system will
>only save the OS to 'disk', not the open applications.

I always thought the Windows OS was permanently on the 'disk' and thus
 didn't need to be resaved at each shutdown. 

>And it will only
>save to 'disk' if Fast Startup is enabled (which is the default).

For the first time in decades (IIRC I started at DOS 5) I'm going Windows
 free. I gave away my last LT to a greatgrandkid and will now live on
 Android and Chrome OS. (Also Fire OS but that's really Android.) So it's
 now fast start for me for the duration. Whoopee...  8-O



>  N.B. If your comment was correct, there would be no 'Hibernate' choice
>in the 'Power' menu.
>
>> However when a user does *restart* Windows, then he does that to make
>> sure, the system is in a defined state - and for this reasons Windows
>> will *not* hibernate and restore the current state when it is restarted.
>
>  It's actually better to do a Shut down (with Fast Restart disabled),
>wait some time and then do a bootup, to get the software and hardware in
>a defined 'cold' bootup state. Some electronics, mainly capacitors but
>also some other electronics, can take some time to get back in their
>'cold' state. Most of the time a Restart will be enough, but for strange
>problems it's wise to try Shut down, wait, power on/bootup.
>
>  For an authorative reference:
>
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