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From: AJL <noemail@none.com>
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Subject: Re: Shutdown vs. Restart
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 19:38:13 -0000 (UTC)
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On 3/26/25 11:34 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>> On 3/26/25 8:25 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> >Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> >> Steve Hayes, 2025-03-24 10:04:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >> Learned recently that in later versions of windows, Shutdown does not
>> >> >> completely shut down windows but Restart does. 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is that true in Android too? 
>> >> > 
>> >> > In Windows, I'm pretty sure it is the other way round. 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Restart doesn't completely shut down Windows, but shutdown does. 
>> >> 
>> >> No, it's exactly the opposite - because "shutdown" is what people do all
>> >> the time when they want turn off their computers. For this very reason
>> >> Windows does only hibernate by default - which means it stores the
>> >> current RAM content on the SSD so the last state including all open
>> >> applications will be restored when turning on the computer the next time.
>> 
>> >Sorry, but that's not correct. If you do a 'Shut down' the system will
>> >only save the OS to 'disk', not the open applications.
>[Moved back where it belongs (for context):]
>> >And it will only
>> >save to 'disk' if Fast Startup is enabled (which is the default).
>> 
>> I always thought the Windows OS was permanently on the 'disk' and thus
>>  didn't need to be resaved at each shutdown. 
>
>  We're talking about the *active* version of the OS. That is saved to
>'disk' (if Fast Startup is enabled).
>
>  The idea is that Windows does not have to go through the whole process
>of booting up, starting all the devices, services, etc., etc..
>
>  Just compare it to resuming from hibernation (which does much *more*
>than saving the OS to 'disk'). Isn't that much, much faster than a cold
>boot?  Saving only the OS to 'disk' gives a similar speedup.
>
>  But all of this is moot to us (ex-)laptop users, because we only
>shutdown or restart when we must. At all other times, we let the system
>sleep or hibernate.


>> For the first time in decades (IIRC I started at DOS 5) I'm going Windows
>>  free. I gave away my last LT to a greatgrandkid and will now live on
>>  Android and Chrome OS. (Also Fire OS but that's really Android.) So it's
>>  now fast start for me for the duration. Whoopee...  8-O
>
>  Lucky you! Too much of my need/want stuff is Windows-only, so I can't
>switch to another platform.

Well if it doesn't work out Amazon is just a few clicks away and I can be
 back in Windows by a tomorrow morning delivery. But in the meantime I still
 have 4 Amazon tablets, 2 Chromebooks, a Chrome tablet, and 2 Android
 tablets to play with. Surprisingly this Amazon Fire HD10 I'm posting with
 is my favorite. Light and comfortable to hold, reasonably quick, and with
 Google installed does about everything the others do.
And no, no I'm not
 being paid for these Amazon endorsements...


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