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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: III correctly emulated by EEE ---
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On 3/26/2025 6:20 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/25/25 11:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/25/2025 8:14 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 3/25/25 6:57 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 3/25/2025 4:32 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Tue, 25 Mar 2025 07:00:57 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 3/25/2025 3:37 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:13:51 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 3/24/2025 8:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/24/25 10:14 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/24/2025 6:23 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/25 9:06 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/2025 6:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/25 6:47 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/2025 4:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/25 1:21 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/23/2025 6:07 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/25 11:52 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/2025 9:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/25 2:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There exists no Natural Number N number of steps of III
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated by EEE where III reaches its own 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ret"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruction and terminates normally.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there is an N after which III returns.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, and thus you must consider *ALL* of that memory as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> input, so if you change it, it is a different input.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You haven't yet noticed that all posts with this title [III
>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulated by EEE] are talking about a pure emulator 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> emulates a finite number of instructions of III.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then it is not pure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> DDD, the input, halts.
>>>>>> The DDD that halts IS NOT AN ACTUAL INPUT TO HHH.
>>>>
>>>>> Then what is? Another program with the same name that doesn't?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An entirely different instance that has different behavior.
>>>
>>> YOu mean it has a different set of instructions?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is easier to see this as DDD emulated by HHH where DDD
>>>> defines a pathological relationship with HHH versus DDD
>>>> emulated by HHH1 where there is no such pathological relationship.
>>>>
>>>> DDD/HHH  Cannot possibly reach its final halt state.
>>>
>>> So HHH just gives up before reaching the end,
>>
>> Since you know that I know you are lying I
>> dare you to prove your point with actual correct
>> reasoning so that you can make a fool of yourself.
>>
> 
> No, I know that you are so stupid you think i am lying when you are.
> 
> My point is proven by just running HHH, and seeing that it gives up.
> 

You already admitted that DDD emulated by HHH never reaches
its final state an halts. Do you not understand that this
behavior can be detected in a finite number of steps.

> We can then run the version where main calls DDD, and we see that by the 
> DEFINITIONS of the problem, the input halts, and thus HHH was wrong.
> 
> Sorry, you are just proving to the world that you are so stupid you 
> can't see your stupidity. A perfect example of Dunning-Kruger.


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