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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Why is Microsoft Smart App so damned retarded? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:44:10 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vs2ahb$32fhn$1@dont-email.me> References: <bN0FP.1217024$zz8b.1133415@fx09.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 02:44:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3335b9568b4046204db706cb301f05ea"; logging-data="3227191"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/8nU6ybasfX4poLJMCVdj/ARa2XBpzjuc=" User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802) Cancel-Lock: sha1:V1GmT+tE/m+1ZNlJdED7caNaIPY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <bN0FP.1217024$zz8b.1133415@fx09.iad> Bytes: 3367 On Wed, 3/26/2025 8:16 PM, CrudeSausage wrote: > It blocks legitimate software and even does _that_ inconsistently. > Sometimes, it thinks the software is fine, only to turn around> on the next boot to treat the program as malware.> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/app-browser-control-in-the-windows-security-app-8f68fb65-ebb4-3cfb-4bd7-ef0f376f3dc3#bkmk_smart-app-control "Smart App Control Smart App Control adds significant protection from new and emerging threats by blocking apps that are malicious or untrusted. Smart App Control also helps to block potentially unwanted apps, which are apps that may cause your device to run slowly, display unexpected ads, offer extra software you didn't want [m365], or do other things you don't expect. Smart App Control works alongside your other security software, such as Microsoft Defender or non-Microsoft antivirus tools, for added protection. " Just out of curiosity, what does your Reliability panel look like ? [Picture] https://i.postimg.cc/CxK20Cnk/reliability-panel-W11.gif Sometimes, the pattern in there, indicates problems you did not know existed. That's why I am recommending a look in there, because your symptoms suggests the machine has some kind of health problem. Logged in there, is activity you would not normally know is happening. I've seen some pretty weird shit in this OS -- in one case weird enough I wrote up a Feedback Hub entry for it. Most of these correlate with being in the middle of a Windows Update (and some services have been shut off). A reboot cures a few of the problems, but not all of them. There are a significant number of failed "App" updates coming from the Microsoft Store in the reliability panel. But I'm not going to work on those, unless I can find an updated "err-6.4.5.exe" program, which prints out reasons for an error, based on the error hex number. Googling your ass off, using the error codes in the reliability panel, that's not going to find all the error codes. While the date here is 2024, I think this particular one came from a further back point in time. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=100432 Paul