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From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org>
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Subject: Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 07:46:15 -0400
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Jim Burns wrote :
> On 3/26/2025 6:11 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 3/24/2025 8:45 AM, Jim Burns wrote:
>>> On 3/23/2025 10:48 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>
>>>> Perhaps, well, sometimes I think
>>>> we (our universe) might be contained within
>>>> a black hole residing inside our parent universe.
>>>> Two massive black holes might of merged in our parent,
>>>> there merger was "fertile",
>>>> and created us, perhaps?.
>>>> Our universe.
>>>> This is just thinking out loud here for fun.
>>>> Whatever! ;^)
>
>>> Suppose physics permits, in some universes,
>>> a really advanced technology to bud off
>>> baby universes, with some variation in constants.
>>> Those life.friendly, civilization.friendly universes
>>> would provide the lion's share of universes.
>>>
>>> That's intended to explain why our universe
>>> is so friendly to us. Pick a random universe.
>>> Since (assuming blablablah) most are friendly,
>>> you've most likely picked a friendly universe.
>
>> Thanks, Jim.
>> Some of my thoughts I sometimes have
>> wrt this "infinite fractal cosmic tree"
>> revolve around, well,
>> it was never created simply because it was always there?
>> There is no chicken and egg problem?
>>
>> Too out there?
>
> Not at all.
> You are in alignment with
> the Steady State hypothesis,
> which is approximately:
> Everything is the way it is because
> it's always been that way.
>
> Before the Big Bang was the frontrunner
> in the best.theory.sweepstakes,
> there was the Steady State.
> It wasn't even so long ago that
> it was frontrunner.
>
> Einstein inserted the term Λgₘₙ into
> his General Relativity field equations
>   Rₘₙ - ½Rgₘₙ + Λgₘₙ = 8πG/c⁴⋅Tₘₙ
> in order for them to have Steady State solutions.
>
> Later,
> when evidence was found of a hot early universe,
> Einstein is said to have called Λgₘₙ
> his greatest blunder.
>
> So,
> although today the evidence points away from
> the Steady State universe,
> it didn't always point away.
>
>
> If I were typing this even a week ago,
> I would be reciting some very definite numbers
> alleged to describe our universe.
> However, I've recently learned that
> we've learned that
> the universe is expanding unevenly,
> so
> there's a whole lot of re.thinking going on.
> I'm not sure what to tell you.

Or, as Ross Finlayson would probably say, Fred Hoyle, Hermann Bondi, 
and Thomas Gold.