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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 (theory of theories) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 07:46:15 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 76 Message-ID: <vs3dqc$5t41$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqrbtd$1chb7$2@solani.org> <vrf5bp$1gcun$1@dont-email.me> <b3730bf7-bcd1-4698-b465-6d6ef190b29d@att.net> <vrgm1k$2s8c6$2@dont-email.me> <c81100d7-9354-4c8e-b216-e147cab9b41c@att.net> <vrhrlb$3ta8t$1@dont-email.me> <c0de7504-7d17-42f1-83e8-8767c0859c0c@att.net> <vrj5nh$12273$1@dont-email.me> <efbe60c5-6691-4fd6-8638-589fd95ec8a4@att.net> <vrkabi$233at$1@dont-email.me> <vrkca8$18dh$1@news.muc.de> <vrkf5b$279ci$1@dont-email.me> <vrkfnj$279ci$2@dont-email.me> <vrklg9$124q$1@news.muc.de> <vrkoeo$2g0do$1@dont-email.me> <vrlslv$1o63d$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> <vrn5a4$lt4q$1@dont-email.me> <ZSednQTuX_EO-EL6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <3d4d2c71-81b2-4343-aaaf-ec0371358d77@att.net> <1widnX3HrIpUzH36nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vrqh59$3r3c0$1@dont-email.me> <2c671e9f-42ae-448e-aa91-4cc198dfb526@att.net> <vs1u1p$2n74m$1@dont-email.me> <1339a567-d36b-4d39-ae38-ff95849735a3@att.net> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 12:46:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d2bdff15b77c578070625fe3e23be8da"; logging-data="193665"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VlwKoaPdWeKv9PXH69Ovehd1P2A32oC4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:ngGGAdAfQl9cp/NmVhBoAdvKb30= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 Bytes: 4348 Jim Burns wrote : > On 3/26/2025 6:11 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 3/24/2025 8:45 AM, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 3/23/2025 10:48 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>> Perhaps, well, sometimes I think >>>> we (our universe) might be contained within >>>> a black hole residing inside our parent universe. >>>> Two massive black holes might of merged in our parent, >>>> there merger was "fertile", >>>> and created us, perhaps?. >>>> Our universe. >>>> This is just thinking out loud here for fun. >>>> Whatever! ;^) > >>> Suppose physics permits, in some universes, >>> a really advanced technology to bud off >>> baby universes, with some variation in constants. >>> Those life.friendly, civilization.friendly universes >>> would provide the lion's share of universes. >>> >>> That's intended to explain why our universe >>> is so friendly to us. Pick a random universe. >>> Since (assuming blablablah) most are friendly, >>> you've most likely picked a friendly universe. > >> Thanks, Jim. >> Some of my thoughts I sometimes have >> wrt this "infinite fractal cosmic tree" >> revolve around, well, >> it was never created simply because it was always there? >> There is no chicken and egg problem? >> >> Too out there? > > Not at all. > You are in alignment with > the Steady State hypothesis, > which is approximately: > Everything is the way it is because > it's always been that way. > > Before the Big Bang was the frontrunner > in the best.theory.sweepstakes, > there was the Steady State. > It wasn't even so long ago that > it was frontrunner. > > Einstein inserted the term Λgₘₙ into > his General Relativity field equations > Rₘₙ - ½Rgₘₙ + Λgₘₙ = 8πG/c⁴⋅Tₘₙ > in order for them to have Steady State solutions. > > Later, > when evidence was found of a hot early universe, > Einstein is said to have called Λgₘₙ > his greatest blunder. > > So, > although today the evidence points away from > the Steady State universe, > it didn't always point away. > > > If I were typing this even a week ago, > I would be reciting some very definite numbers > alleged to describe our universe. > However, I've recently learned that > we've learned that > the universe is expanding unevenly, > so > there's a whole lot of re.thinking going on. > I'm not sure what to tell you. Or, as Ross Finlayson would probably say, Fred Hoyle, Hermann Bondi, and Thomas Gold.