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From: Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:45:14 +0100
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Am 27.03.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:17:43 +0100, Rolf Mantel
> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
> 
>> Am 27.03.2025 um 13:43 schrieb John B.:
>>> On 27 Mar 2025 11:49:09 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2025 10:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/26/2025 3:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those metrics. You
>>>>>>>> obviously don't believe that,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't? My, how kunich-esque of you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you should explicitly state your positions. As it is, you now
>>>>>> seem to be implying that you do think bicycling is safer than walking.
>>>>>> Yet you apparently think that bicyclists get great value from special
>>>>>> protective hats, but pedestrians don't need them. Those two points seem
>>>>>> inconsistent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So am I misinterpreting your views? What exactly are your views?
>>>>>
>>>>> My view is that helmets work. Wear them if you feel you need to extra
>>>>> protection. Don't wear them if you don't feel that need.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I find them useful off road as bush protection if like myself one rides the
>>>> path less traveled aka overgrown! So I can essentially use my the helmet to
>>>> push through said bushes!
>>>>
>>>> On road which for me largely is commuting, It provides eye protection with
>>>> the visor from rain/hail and so on.
>>>>
>>>> It’s also quite handy as sort of man bag to put one’s keys/gloves etc at
>>>> cafe stop/shopping etc.
>>>>
>>>> I have no expectations of protection from motor traffic nor does population
>>>> studies seem to suggest that, bike infrastructure seems to do that ie
>>>> Amsterdam and similar cyclists have much lower rates and so on.
>>>>
>>>> But UK isn’t likely to make this a legislation the hurdles to do so are
>>>> large, so I don’t feel forced or otherwise to use one, after all see plenty
>>>> of non helmeted cyclists about be they folks on hire bikes or some utility
>>>> cyclists.
>>>>
>>>> It’s such a non issue at least here.
>>>
>>> I think my reason for wearing a helmet was best :-)
>>>
>>> My wife mentioned one day, "I'd feel better if you wore a helmet", so
>>> I went right out and  bought one. Which gave me a big edge in the next
>>> husband-wife argument.... "Well! When you wanted me to wear a helmet I
>>> did....." (:-])
>>
>> My answer was "High visibility is even more important. What about I buy
>> a bright yellow Gore cycling top?", killing two birds with one stone ;-)
> 
> A hundred dollars for a shirt? I don't think so.

For a shirt that lasts 25 years that's value for money.